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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#430684
ok since chaos is almost on the road again so im looking in to shifters. i currently have the long empi trigger in the one im driving and a quick shift kit in chaos. i like the idea of a reverse lock out as on the trigger shifter but i want something shorter in the shift like the quick shift kit ie 2 inches between gears. most importantly i like the fact that i can put a round gear knob or something similar on there. so im asking all those that are using shifters in their bugs, which ones they are using and how they handle? please help me on this as i will make a decision based on the help you all provide
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hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#430694
blow the round gear knob, get a berg shifter!

What others are there?😉

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#430698
thats why im asking and its personal preference to have a round knob over a t bar but thats me
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hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#430711
i'm not knocking the round knob or the fact its your preference

I would choose function, and if you want function and have the budget, get a berg.

available with angled shaft, straight shaft, short shaft, 40% less throw, 60% less throw, with lock out reverse on them all, also for 5 speeds, kombis late and early, and also key lock to lock in reverse.

i have had mine for 10 years, my sisters has been going strong for 14+

watch out for the ring trigger shift lock out style, the cable linkage to the reverse mechanism is pissy, seen a couple of those let go and near impossible to get right again

🤘

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#430713
fair enough mate i wasnt upset just stating my preference but ill look in to it mate. at the moment its ether the scat or flat 4 as im on a very limited budget due to the rebuild and my other habit beer making and drinking.
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#431207
anyone else got any of the ones i mentioned
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Menangler Custom Title Time!

1,991 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#431316
I have one of those cheepo Empi ones from Classic Vee Dub, round knob, trigger lock out, its great.
I had a Berg a few years ago, didn't like the 'T' handle and the throw was too short.
When my Cheepo one wears out I'll just buy another one.
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#431317
hey dave you have the short version right hows the shift
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marty_08 Seriously Crusin Dubber

191 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·

#431423
Barls,

I have the short Empi shifter that is angled in my buggy. It is heaps better than the longer ones and heaps heaps better than the original!!!!!

The throw is just right for me, would've considered the 'T' handle but my knee wouldn't fit between the steering wheel and "T"!!!!! (according to my calculations!!).

Just like menangler, i''ll just buy u newy if the trigger buggers up, until then i'm just gentle tugging on the trigger to go reverse!!!

Marty
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vwtyp2 Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,504 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#431427
shifters come in two varieties.
Berg, and everything else.
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bugboymatt Custom Title Time!

1,405 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#431430
I have a berg shifter in my bug. I must admit it's great. Nice short throw. No chance of hitting reverse!!!
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pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#431465
I had an empi quick shift in a bug a few years back and loved it. And at $15 bucks you really can't go wrong. If you want it shorter, just cut a bit off the shaft and re-thread it.

As for all you Gene Berg sheep. Why pay $400 for a shifter when you can pay $15? And BTW, I never had a problem with going into reverse by accident and there is no special lock out on the short shift kit.

Hey, aren't T-bars for autos? Real VWs never came with autos. :vader
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HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!

3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#431468
I like my Berg Shitter.

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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#431472
pete wood wrote:I had an empi quick shift in a bug a few years back and loved it. And at $15 bucks you really can't go wrong. If you want it shorter, just cut a bit off the shaft and re-thread it.

As for all you Gene Berg sheep. Why pay $400 for a shifter when you can pay $15? And BTW, I never had a problem with going into reverse by accident and there is no special lock out on the short shift kit.

Hey, aren't T-bars for autos? Real VWs never came with autos. :vader
i currently have this kit installed in chaos and like it. im just exploring options.
vwtyp2 id buy a berg if they did anything other than a t bar. cause i dont want a t bar in chaos
classic matt i love it
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HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!

3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#431474
barls wrote:vwtyp2 id buy a berg if they did anything other than a t bar. cause i dont want a t bar in chaos
You can take off the t-bar and put it on your toilet brush where it belongs... then get a knob off a truck, they are usually round or modern style "droop" use the preselect lever to actuate the reverse lock out.



[ Edited on 23-11-2005 by HotRodMatt ]

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#431478
its an option but id have to have $400 first and there are a lot of things that id get first. thanks matt
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HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!

3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#431480
I'd stick with the plate too!

Midlife crisis Nartispuddlejumper, Bureau of Toxicity

2,282 posts · joined May 2003 ·

#431485
Hi
I have the standard shifter with the quickshift kit.
I like it and have had no trouble wit it.
The other good thing is that it was a cheap setup.
and as petewood said if you want it short just cut and rethread.

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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#517499
i ended up going the scat dragfast that i picked up for the right amount and its exactly what i was after in the shift length
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