Who uses these and are they any good?
Any recommendations on where to buy them from?
Where are they ususally installed on the swing axel, i.e. where is the fixing point on the chassis?
Matt.
Hi
They usually attach to the shock bolt, the back yard way is to fit a bolt into the torsion bar housing where the spring plate rests when the car is jacked up.
Steve
I am a little lost at what you are talking about here?
How does a bolt in the torsion bar cover plate attached to a strap work?
Doesn't the strap go round the axel housing? Are they made of a thin metal or material? I was thinking I could make some out of an old army shute that I have. Would that work?
Matt.
Hi
Ive seen them made out of seat belt webbing, one end goes to the top shock bolt, the other to a bolt where the spring plate bolts to the axle tube.
I will try to explain the backyard way a bit better. When the car is jacked up you see that the spring plate will rest on the torsion bar housing, just to the rear of the 4 bolt bushing cover. What you can do is take the tension of the spring plate by jacking the car up under the lower shock mount, you will see spring plate move away from its rest postion, drill a hole through the cast metal and put a bolt in there.
Steve
Matt
I have one that I'm looking at selling hasn't been on the car very long, I found it excellent - still doesn't make a swing axle handle like a ferrari but I found it improved it.
Can take a photo tomorrow if you are interested. U2U me.
Brad
P.S Oh yeah - reason for sale I am getting the KG converted to IRS.
[ Edited on 25-11-2005 by blup58 ]
blup58, are you selling a camber compensator? If so what brand? And what price are you asking? A pic would be great.
I am looking for one of these but was going to wait a bit, but if its a good deal......
Cheers,
Matt.
G'day MAtt
I bout it from Sherman Conversions, from memory I paid $180 - would want $130. As it has only been on the car 4-6months (can't really remember) and the car is not a daily driver only take the car out every second weekend.
Will get a photo tonight, I do have one other guy interested, but I responded to you so you can have first preference.
Cheers
Brad
Hey Brad,
Spotted these yesterday at the show and swap, well worth the money you are asking. That said, I will have to discuss this with the 'BOSS' (wife) as I just off loaded a bit of $$$ on some more parts.
Cheers,
Matt.
Matt
Photos as discussed
and
Hey Matty - the camber compensator pictured above does a good job and makes a noticable difference to the handling of a swing axle vw - its never going to go around corners as well as IRS, but it certainly makes a big difference.
The anti-tuck straps you refer to more relate to limiting downward travel of the spring plate (likewise some people (drag racers esp) use them on the front to limit down travel of the front torsion bars). The bolt method referred to above related to inserting a bolt (some people weld a metal stop) on the part of the chassis on which the spring plate rests. This in effect stops the spring plate dropping down too far thereby causing rear wheel tuck around corners.
The camber compensator (most commonly used), the limiting straps and bolt/welded stop method all kind of do the same job - some are just easier to do than others.
Alan
Thanks for the info Alan, very informative, I do have a quick question though:
Can the spring rate of the camber combensator be reset to induce a firmer ride? e.g. same principle as resetting a leaf spring on a car/4wd where you are going to create a greater upwards force.
Also as there is no rubber mount betweent he axel housing and the compenstator itself, is there a clunck every time you round a corner?
bulp58,
I have been given the two thumbs up so we can start the process of transaction.....
Matt.
To my knowledge there is no form of adjusting an existing camber compensator for its upward pressure. I guess if you worked in the steel industry you could calculate the force required and fabricate one yourself (or pay someone to do it). But to date I only know of the standard arrangement as pictured above (like what I have on my beetle).
There is a small piece of rubber between the mount and the compensator itself (hard to see in the pic). No clunks or rattles (I know this from my experience with mine, as well as driving in blup58's ghia whilst it has had it on).
Hey Matt,
No, you don't hear a clunk everytime you go 'round a corner and adjustment is non-existant really.
Are you going to be narrowing your front beam at all? Do you have a heavy duty front sway bar yet? Would you like one?
I have one for a few $$ if you are interested...... Not sure what they cost these days but would be prepared to give it to you for 50% of the full price. I think it is a 3/4" bar, not sure, but it is called a heavy duty sway bar.
Alan.
Matt
You have u2u
Brad
blup58,
I think I have U2U?
Which side of Brisbane are you?
063dub,
Alan I am planning to get a puma dual adjustable beam from CBPerformance, unless they are not any good ofcourse (yet to be debated and researched). I am currently running a standard beam (with standard swaybar), however that will be changed before it gets on the road.
Is your swaybar whiteline?
At the moment the wife has curbed my spending :cry until after Christmas so after my one last expenditure with blup58 I am going cold turkey for a couple of months......
However that said I am not sure if I will be running a narrowed beam as I haven't worked out ride hieght/tyre rub etc.
Matt.
Make sure you do your research regarding freight of the beam - they are heavy and it won't be cheap - esp when they mostly use courier companies that are efficient (most of the time) but certainly sting you with the cost.
Do a cost comparison with having your beam/donor beam modified by say Custom Offroad at stafford - my thoughts it will be a lot cheaper than bringing one in, but I am not 100% so just make sure you check.
MattY-64 wrote:blup58,
I think I have U2U?
Which side of Brisbane are you?
063dub,
Alan I am planning to get a puma dual adjustable beam from CBPerformance, unless they are not any good ofcourse (yet to be debated and researched). I am currently running a standard beam (with standard swaybar), however that will be changed before it gets on the road.
Is your swaybar whiteline?
At the moment the wife has curbed my spending :cry until after Christmas so after my one last expenditure with blup58 I am going cold turkey for a couple of months......
However that said I am not sure if I will be running a narrowed beam as I haven't worked out ride hieght/tyre rub etc.
Matt.
Not a whiteline bar but fits in the stock location using similar type fasteners. A neater installation than the whiteline in my opinion. Hope you are enjoying the magazines....... I have the bar sitting at home not doing anything as my beam was narrowed (with adjusters installed) at Custom Off Road.... very happy with the work on my beam...
🙂 and don't talk to me about money, I just bought an engagement ring.... the number of car parts I could have bought..... but she will last a lot longer and teach me a lot more
😍G'day Matt
I live on the southside at Tarragindi. Not sure if you picked up the brakes from Alan's house but I'm not far from there (063BUG)
Please disregard this if I have misinterpreted your comment -
"I think I have U2U? "
I got the impression you may not have known what I meant by U2U (don't worry I didn't know either there for a while) basically it is a facility on this forum where you can send a message directly to another member i.e no one else gets to see it.
If you look at the top right hand side of the web browser you should have the following
Logged in as .......
[Log Out - U2U - UserCP]
Click on the U2U - you should be able to work it out from here.
Once agin if I'm telling you something thats obvious and you already know my apologise.
Cheers
Brad
063bug wrote:I have the bar sitting at home not doing anything as my beam was narrowed (with adjusters installed) .... very happy with the work on my beam... 🙂
I'm starting to worry 063bug - if you exchange the word "the" with an "a" in the first line above....sounds like you mail ordered one of those Swedish "pumps" for your "beam". hehehe :o
