where to mount donalson air cleaner

Anthiron · 2005-12-03T05:31:29+00:00

ive got a donalson to go on my baja. which side do you normally mount it on the guard? passenger or drivers side? how does it affect visibility? Nick

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 6 Dec 2005, 1:32 pm

#435654

Nah washing it with the right stuff. Just folding it stresses the glue joints and that's where it's failing.

As you say, I could put it inside the car, but it's noisy enough as is. Putting the filter inside the car would double the noise.

Donaldsons should work in any kind of weather I would have thought. Also, a bigger engine (mine is 2.5l) would have been better on the whole constant draw thingo too.

"stoopid is stronger than axles"
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helterskelter400 Fahrvergnugen

900 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 6 Dec 2005, 4:22 pm

#435712

pete wood wrote:As you say, I could put it inside the car, but it's noisy enough as is. Putting the filter inside the car would double the noise.

i have no need to worry about noise due to the dual cannons :]

and yeah, as long as sir donald has his cap on he has no need to worry about the rain. my main issue with them is that they are big hunks of tin attached to my oh so smooth buggy (jk) waiting to get plucked by a passing mallee.

:thumb

Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 6 Dec 2005, 9:54 pm

#435871

you guys do realise that the donaldson has a paper element inside it that needs cleaning and replacement, yes? They are no better or worse than any other barrel type paper element filter except have a pre-filter on it. But I have to agree that a thoughtfully located K&N or unifilter is a much better option. ram flo air filters are utter junk, they don't filter anything smaller than gravel, and have a habit of going crumbly and flammable.

a stock VW motor IS a tractor motor in every regard except for being fitted to a tractor! :P

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Make it go faster!!

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 7 Dec 2005, 8:33 am

#435956

Secoh wrote:you guys do realise that the donaldson has a paper element inside it that needs cleaning and replacement, yes?

yeah I pointed that out when I said...

So what you are left with is a paper element filter in a weather proof enclosure. The only good point of that is that it is a weather proof enclosure.

K&N's are generally $100 when new.

You can get similar design units for a lot less though. Just make sure it isn't a fake K&N which is actually purple coloured paper. Autobarn have a new brand of blue air filters that are reusable and I think even come with a warantee like the K&N's but are much much cheaper.

Pete, your air filter is mounted in one of the worst places you could possibly mount it. Even if you left it where it is and made a cover / hat for it you'd be a lot better off.

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pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 8 Dec 2005, 3:54 pm

#436470

how do you mean a cover/hat? what sort of thing?

Why is it in the worst place?

"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

67_on_its_guts Casual Dubber

24 posts · joined Oct 2005 · 8 Dec 2005, 9:06 pm

#436568

Wow some of you Boys are playing for keeps.........I'm out of my depth, but interesting reading anyway.

My vote goes to the Moose for making the most sense, based on off road racing experience.

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Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 9 Dec 2005, 8:39 am

#436660

pete wood wrote:Why is it in the worst place?

well I guess it isn't the worst place, you could have put it behind the back tyre 🙂

Where it is I am quite sure it will cop sand spray from the front wheels. If your buggy is like any other buggy I have driven the front wheels throw crap up over the back body (where you air filter is) and sometimes even inside the car. Same thing with water spray when it rains.

By hat cover I mean something like a sausepan upside down sitting over top of the air filter, to protect it from sand and water coming from the front of the car. The air would then have to travel upwards and fowards under the cover to get to the air filter element.

Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

Mad Manx KombiKroozin

456 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 9 Dec 2005, 8:59 am

#436666

I had a Donaldson for some time on my manx then switched to a K & N pod filtre with an extra foam cover. I found that the foam doesn't last long with beach work and ended up using a calico bank bag (don't laugh) this worked much better and was very easy to wash, but I must admit that I have since gone back to the Donaldson, reason being the K & N had a really loud induction roar that was getting annoying.

- '71 Kombi (Died 24/11/05😢 ) - '65 manx (smick) -'63 beetle (bent) -'73 Singlecab (new to the stable)

shaihulud Custom Title Time!

1,448 posts · joined Nov 2005 · 11 Dec 2005, 4:47 am

#437118

When I set up my buggy I fitted a Donaldson with a Unifilter and an outer sleeve inside the rear guard and on the left side. The intake is in the end and the outlet is on the side so it's a bit unusual. Years later when I set up the buggy to go up the Great Central Road from Kalgoorlie to Alice Springs I fitted a tall piece of exhaust pipe that stood straight up above the aircleaner. The main problem with that was that I connected it to the outlet. That is back to front. At Katajuta the car ran like a chaff cutter so I pulled the aircleaner apart to be confronted with a clean outside surface and a completely blocked inside surface. I needed to connect it properly so I had the mechanic modify the inlet to its correct place. I went across the road to the car grave yard to see what I could find in the way of radiator hoses to fit to the outlet to the carburettor. Out in the desert the last thing that one can expect to find on a car wreck is the radiator and the hoses, as they are the first things that get recycled. The last two cars that I checked were two XD Falcons which were complete with radiators, hoses and water. It was pure dumb luck. I fitted two hoses together and solved the problem so well that I left that field repair on the car to remind me of how lucky I was. As a matter of interest the inlet pipe was about a foot above centre of the rear of the roof rack and about a foot behind it. In that place it was still in the dust. It needed to be about a meter longer there to be above the dust, or at the front to be completely clear of it.

11CAB If ya got it....Baja it

4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 11 Dec 2005, 7:15 am

#437121

Any pics?

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Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 18 Dec 2005, 11:36 am

#439216

Unifiler kits which consist of the filter to suit pic 34 VW carb, outer sleeve and bottle of filter oil costs $66 complete and ready to bolt on. If you are using it on a Manx or baja then it gets covered anyway by the body and works well. I run a few stocking when I go on the beach and just swap them over if I am playing in the sand.

Simplicity and the lack of body mods is a high point, if you look after them they work fine.

Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
Meyers Manx Australia