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Pertronix or other elec ignition, what do you think???

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adnesiac Seriously Crusin Dubber

112 posts · joined Oct 2004 ·

#435010
hey guys
just looking at putting an electronic ignition system into my bus (pertronix or other?)....do you guys recommend doing this, ie does the preformance and costs etc outway just replacing points?? and is it an easy job?

im looking to service my bus by myself from now on as ive had a bad run with mechanics lately, so ive been cruising richard atwells site (awesome info) and he recommends the upgrade
http://www.ratwell.com/technical/EssentialUpgrades.html

cheers
adam

[ Edited on 4-12-2005 by adnesiac ]

ClassicVW(pacific) Custom Title Time!

1,627 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#435074
Go the petronix, I put it in the 58 split and it improved the performance no end, highly recommended

adnesiac Seriously Crusin Dubber

112 posts · joined Oct 2004 ·

#435165
cool, emailed them today.....looking forward to going up hills again 😁

66deluxe Custom Title Time!

1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#436786
one of the best things you can do for a stock or 009 dizzy, worth the money. I just used a bosch gt40 coil and custom made leads from Queensland ignition leads.
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jo_tas Custom Title Time!

1,547 posts · joined Aug 2004 ·

#437762
So you can get them to fit the standard distributors? Such as my standard '71 type 3 dizzy?

takis Seriously Crusin Dubber

106 posts · joined Aug 2007 ·

#610179
i purchased a Petronix 2 ignitor kit.
it was worth every cent.It was installed by me in my daughters 69 bug in a 009 dizzy.
It fires new NGK plugs gapped to 1 mm. The difference before and after is noticeable.A very slight fuel improvement , but best of all no more point replacing and timing ..😎

Adsman Officially Full-On Dubber

393 posts · joined Jan 2007 ·

#610733
Anybody know if the pertronix are ok to use with a MSD6AL? Or if a MSD will be benificial to a 1916 VW motor running twin 44IDF carbs? I have a flat spot just off idle and though the multiple spark setup might solve it.
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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#610734
Most flat spots off idle are either
syncronzation,
or lean idle/plot jet.
Try the synchronizing first before changing to a .05mm larger idle jet.
MSD does make idle a bit cleaner , but will not solve your tuning woes.

To be honest, except for the limiter function,
I think MSD is not worth it for the return in performance for the dollar spent.
Perhaps the gain in fuel efficiency may be worthwhile.

Once tou have correct ignition timing and a/f ratio for you combo,
most ignition upgrates that are out there seem to be of only small benefit.

Having said this however replacing the points with a modern pick-up inside the dizzy is well worth it
provided you remember the regular dizzy lubrication schedule for the advance mechanism
as outlined in your owners manual.
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063bug

0 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#610739
Very interesting to hear you say that Dave. I was under the impression that the MSD was the "ducks nuts" for ignition, I'm being serious. I currently run "pointless" ignition retrofitted into my 009 that was organised by Mathew Berry when he worked for volksrestore and I have never looked back but was thinking of someday upgrading to MSD for improving power, performance, etc, etc. I might just be saving my money now, unless it would give me improvement to match the dollars.

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#610867
anyone use Scorcher dizzy?
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Adsman Officially Full-On Dubber

393 posts · joined Jan 2007 ·

#610881
Thanks Dave. Im definately removing the points, I have a MSD sitting in the shed from an old race car and was thing of utilising it but from what you say it maybe worth investing the time into carby tuning. Looking more at the motor today it seems to be fine above 2500rpm with fast rpm gain but not much below. Infact it seems to bog for a bit when the pedal is pressed. Now make sense about the carby jets verses timing and ignition. thanks again I will have a bit more of a play
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jo_tas Custom Title Time!

1,547 posts · joined Aug 2004 ·

#611094
I've been running compufire pointless ignition in my car for a couple of years now.. its great.. haven't had to touch the distributor since!

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#611206
jo_tas wrote:.. its great.. haven't had to touch the distributor since!
Naughty, naughty, Josie!
Remember that the advance mechanism needs occasional lube(see owners manual).
There is a felt pad inside the shaft underneath the rotor.
It needs one drop of oil every now and then.
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jo_tas Custom Title Time!

1,547 posts · joined Aug 2004 ·

#611286
Oh, i didn't know that.. thanks Dave!

njg02 Seriously Crusin Dubber

145 posts · joined May 2005 ·

#615270
Jo_tas. Was your module a straight install, with no mods to the dizzy? I've just bought one but it won't fit. '73 wagon, manual.
71 super in progress.