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wombatone Seriously Crusin Dubber

167 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#450399
Has any one seen a program that can calculate the terminal velocity of a bug.

hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#450454
ask dave- he knows things- aka "dangerous"

crewcabconnection Being Sid James

1,922 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#450459
what altitude will you be dropping it from?
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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#450668
The only formula I have is for terminal velocity in the standing 1/4 mile.
You will need engine power and your vehicle mass in lbs.
Answer will be in MPH.
Get the cubed root of (HP divided by weight), and then multiply your answer by 234.
So if your Volksy has a 60hp engine and weighs 1870lbs (850kgs)
=cubed root of (60 divided by 1870)
=cubed root of .0321
=.318
Then multiply by 234=74mph.
This will be a rude shock to all those people who think their engines make more power.
If you have a chassis dyno figure then you can add between 10 and 15 percent (depending on calibration and correction factors),
to get flywheel power to use in this formula.

[ Edited on 25-1-2006 by dangerous ]
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lohoon Wolfsburg Wizard

466 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#450670
Isn't there a "table" that speed dudes use that considers final drive ratio + wheel diameter + top engine revs?

modulus Veteran Volks Folk

2,009 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#450673
lohoon wrote:Isn't there a "table" that speed dudes use that considers final drive ratio + wheel diameter + top engine revs?
Yes and no. What 'dangerous' is referring to above is a way of estimating trap speed at the end of 1/4 mile of full acceleration.

Of course, the car may go on to achieve a higher top speed, which can be calculated from the top gear ratio, final drive ratio, top rpm, tyre size etc. *provided* that the horsepower curve of the engine is able at all points in the top gear rev range to deliver more kW than required by the sum of rolling resistance (usually small) and aerodynamic resistance (usually big).

I can't guess what wombat wants to know, so I'll go with:- if you drop it from a C4 transporter at 10,000 m, it should top out at about 180 kph before it hits the desert floor.

[ Edited on 25-1-06 by modulus ]

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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#450674
Gear ratios can be used to calculate theoretical top speeds but
unless the engine makes enough power to overcome the frictional losses
(air and other), then it is just theory.
A 60 hp vw beetle would probably max out at less than 90mph
.....well unless "gravity is your co-pilot"
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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#450675
Well said Peter, you beat me to it and described it better.
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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#450676
Yeah - it's called a speedo :P
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speedster356 Plastic not Classic Racing

1,624 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#450708
If your looking for theoretical top then the final drive, tire size, and max engine revs are used. I have a formula some place that then uses your theoretical top speed along with Cd, and frontal area and gives you the required HP to reach that top speed. This dosen't take into account rolling resistance (tire on surface) but is used by the salt lake speed guys. Remember that drag squares by the velocity....:o
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