Apart from a G50 gear box , whats the best vw box

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 4 Apr 2006, 12:44 am

#471418

Looking on line is the USA Rancho boxes whats the best vw based gear box made by these people with super diff .

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GeorgeL Officially Full-On Dubber

231 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 4 Apr 2006, 7:13 am

#471442

seagull wrote:Looking on line is the USA Rancho boxes whats the best vw based gear box made by these people with super diff .

If you want The Best, you really need to talk to them directly. You've gone beyond the "package" deal at that point. They can build just about anything you want, but it will cost you!

George

Desert Moose Cut Cut Cut

2,098 posts · joined Mar 2004 · 4 Apr 2006, 2:41 pm

#471546

What are you thinking of running this transaxle in.....
One of the biggest world gear manufactures for VW transaxles are here in Australia “Albins”. And there are many people in Australia that build better boxes then the one you are talking about. If you are talking of putting a transaxle into a buggy or something like that, your money these days is better spend on another type of transaxle like the Renault Un 4 and 5 or something really good like a complete Albins trans, a Mendeola trans or even one of the best international racing transaxles made right here in WA, a Graydon trans. If you are still wanting a kombi box, give me a call Neal and I’ll put you on to the guy that does all the race boxes transaxles here in WA

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 4 Apr 2006, 9:18 pm

#471741

street vw
Graydon went down the tube I was told and not making them any more , any way would I spend $40000.00 on a gear box ! umm let me think >>>>>>>>>>>>> no !

I now Country is doing lots of boxes

but I was looking at the usa manual box from Rancho or tansform some of these are around US $800.00 + housing

I be putting a 200hp wrx motor be hind it .The un5 needs gear changes as there too tall , this is bucks the last gear set max purchased was $3000.00 and the renault turbo donk would of killed it .

I give mark a call and see what he purchased from transform

Then again Jak is having a good run from his L box

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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 4 Apr 2006, 9:32 pm

#471754

Baker Engineering in Melbourne👍, they do heaps of offroad stuff using Kombi boxes.

BULLETPROOF 😉

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 4 Apr 2006, 9:40 pm

#471767

US box for me , due to cost down here

+ what are you doing down here Craig coming into the dark side are we ?

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boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 · 4 Apr 2006, 9:44 pm

#471774

MIne is holding up suprisingly well considering I am thrashing the shit out it every day...grabbing second and depending on the type of shift, can smoke it for as long as I like. Can you believe the stock cv's are still holding even when one has come 70%undone twice(finally got the star washers).

Craig...you probably know more of what is exactly in it as Spinks built it for Tony.

Matt

boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 · 4 Apr 2006, 9:46 pm

#471777

Hey seagul, did you say the un5 box is too tall...when you have 250 odd hp at the wheels and a flat torque curve, there is no such thing as too tall.

Matt

kevo Officially Full-On Dubber

371 posts · joined Mar 2005 · 4 Apr 2006, 11:12 pm

#471828

boof2332 wrote:Hey seagul, did you say the un5 box is too tall...when you have 250 odd hp at the wheels and a flat torque curve, there is no such thing as too tall.

Matt

agreed, sounds like ya need more power hehehe

76 baywindow kombi - V8 & Weddle racing diff and gearbox
Daily driven beach cruiser

choppa Seriously Crusin Dubber

190 posts · joined Oct 2002 · 5 Apr 2006, 1:10 am

#471838

Im keen on the bus box as well.
But are they actually stronger than the T1 box.
The very low ratio diff may be, but 1st gear ?
Can you get decent highway gears for em.
Length is an issue as well when your runnin a subaru engine.
I think I read u were runnin a bus box in your beetle Craig.
Whats in that?

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 5 Apr 2006, 8:39 am

#471883

Hi

My built-up Type 1 box was worth about $5000. It had 4 Albins gears, Quaife LSD and was built on a 76 low mileage box.

Kombi boxes are OK for off road, but when you change the ratios for a street box you end up with very weak teeth cross sections on the gears, not to mention the gear selector problems these conversions have.

I’m fitting a G50 now which cost $5000, fitting one is not for the feint hearted.

Boof, keep those Beetle CVs, they will act as fuse.

Steve

reub VWRX is gone...

2,054 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 5 Apr 2006, 9:42 pm

#472170

also....if you go porsche be prepared for expensive parts....like I just paid $50 for a shifter bush.

Clutches are also astronimical in cost compared to a performance vw clutch.

I'm kind of lucky that my bug initially came with a G50, 930 CV's and romac billet axles as it's not a cheap excercise at all....

Reub

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 5 Apr 2006, 10:44 pm

#472223

choppa wrote:Im keen on the bus box as well.
But are they actually stronger than the T1 box.
The very low ratio diff may be, but 1st gear ?
Can you get decent highway gears for em.
Length is an issue as well when your runnin a subaru engine.
I think I read u were runnin a bus box in your beetle Craig.
Whats in that?

Which Beetle???!

My Hillclimb beetle gearbox: Rhino case, HD side plates, Quaife diff, Albins gears. Built by John Spinks.

Cheers
Craigt

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 5 Apr 2006, 10:46 pm

#472228

Craig Torrens wrote:Baker Engineering in Melbourne👍, they do heaps of offroad stuff using Kombi boxes.

BULLETPROOF 😉

Ooops they also build BULLETPROOF T1 boxes as well. Greg Ward is currently running one built by them.

Cheers

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 5 Apr 2006, 10:52 pm

#472236

reub-revhead wrote:Clutches are also astronimical in cost compared to a performance vw clutch.

Hi

Im using a 200 mm Beetle flywheel with mine, I have a stage 1V Kennedy pressure plate, so its not expensive that way.

Steve

choppa Seriously Crusin Dubber

190 posts · joined Oct 2002 · 6 Apr 2006, 2:34 pm

#472439

CraigT.

Did I read u were running a detroit locker in one of yours.
Thats the beetle I am refering too.
I imagined this was a bus box?
I would be intersted to speak to this Baker crowd if they can build a tough T1 box for reasonable money.
Might be a better way than an imported box.

Choppa

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 6 Apr 2006, 8:13 pm

#472576

Yep , 1800 bus box. I will u2u their details

reub VWRX is gone...

2,054 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 6 Apr 2006, 8:38 pm

#472593

1303Steve wrote:
reub-revhead wrote:Clutches are also astronimical in cost compared to a performance vw clutch.
Hi

Im using a 200 mm Beetle flywheel with mine, I have a stage 1V Kennedy pressure plate, so its not expensive that way.

Steve

Good idea...I just ordered a 'budget' clutch for the bug today...a 6 puck custom for $450.

Here is a quick plug for http://Performance9.com.au Stan and the guys are more than helpful. If anyone goes Porsche they're the guys to talk with.

They also pointed out to me that the gearbox bell housing had been cut down on mine unlike yours...hence I had the clutch problems....live and learn I guess when you buy someone elses projects.

[ Edited on 6-4-2006 by reub-revhead ]

Reub

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 6 Apr 2006, 9:56 pm

#472652

Hi Reub

Thats who I bought my G50 from, good people.

I had a long talk to the guy that did my adaptor (Unicap) about clucthes, he is not keen on the Porsche cluthes at all, so I going 200 1V Kenedy, not sure about the driven plate yet and a Saab hydrualic release bearing. Im getting an alloy ring made up, to bolt to my flywheel which will support the Porsche starter ring gear in the correct postion for my auto VW starter.

When you ordered your 6 puck custom, was there any mention of the spline type?

Steve

reub VWRX is gone...

2,054 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 6 Apr 2006, 10:38 pm

#472678

1303Steve wrote:Hi Reub

Thats who I bought my G50 from, good people.

I had a long talk to the guy that did my adaptor (Unicap) about clucthes, he is not keen on the Porsche cluthes at all, so I going 200 1V Kenedy, not sure about the driven plate yet and a Saab hydrualic release bearing. Im getting an alloy ring made up, to bolt to my flywheel which will support the Porsche starter ring gear in the correct postion for my auto VW starter.

When you ordered your 6 puck custom, was there any mention of the spline type?

Steve

There was no mention of spline type as they previously supplied a 930 turbo clutch plate and the new one will have the same spline and offset as the original clutch that was in the car. Stan runs the same one in his 993 porsche gt2 replica that has over 500hp so it should be ok. He's even going to give me some money back on the clutch supplied to me upon it's return. We found out the offset of the splined component of the clutch was only incorrect for mine as the gearboc was shortened.

Bill from Unicap is also a great source of information and is happy to share it.

Reub

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 6 Apr 2006, 10:44 pm

#472685

Hi

Im curious to see how the puck clutch behaves on the street, where did you get it from? Bill at Unicap likes a chat, lucky for me its almost a local call.

Steve

reub VWRX is gone...

2,054 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 6 Apr 2006, 10:47 pm

#472687

1303Steve wrote:Hi

Im curious to see how the puck clutch behaves on the street, where did you get it from? Bill at Unicap likes a chat, lucky for me its almost a local call.

Steve

Got it from performance 9. My mate Ian in cairns has a 4 puck in his bug. It wasn't too bad as a passenger. I'd suggest my 6 puck with the heavier pressure plate will be much the same, not so good in traffic....

PS...sorry seagull, don't mean to post too much in your thread...

Reub

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 7 Apr 2006, 1:56 am

#472729

Hey ! no problems with me lads .

I half way through my custom fly wheels now .So this is good reading for the clutch set up your playing with .

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reub VWRX is gone...

2,054 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 7 Apr 2006, 10:13 pm

#473044

seagull wrote:Hey ! no problems with me lads .

I half way through my custom fly wheels now .So this is good reading for the clutch set up your playing with .

I'll be sure to take a pic of the clutch setup I install then and report on its performance.

Reub

Reub