One piece windows

555bug WRX Bug Boy

1,123 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 16 Apr 2006, 8:53 pm

#476606

Ok I know that some people love them and some loath them but I'd like to hear any first hand experiances with one piece windows. I have a set with dual lift mechanisms so that should be fine. Any suggestions as to rubbers would also be appreciated.

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 17 Apr 2006, 1:50 am

#476766

theres a set in my black bug as well as i hjave a new kit in the shed that i never fitted to my Lbug as i dont think i could go with out smokers windows in it
they are great when its warm (watch out for bees in your lap though)
the only thing i will give one piece windows is if they are set up right there is alot less wind noise
that is the hardest part thouggh seting them up right
i spent ages making them work right by glueing carpet inside the door skins to stop rattling, replacing the crappy channel and scrappers u get with them with decent stuff, making the scrappers follow the curve of the windows at the ends and finally making up a front guide track for the glass
normally they just rely on the rear one and the lifter to hold them in place but by adding a front guide channel it really made them more solid
twin lifters make a hell of difference too but i dont know what model bugs had them
i have one in my passenger door and the whole thing works so much more smoothly

hth
Joel

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 17 Apr 2006, 2:52 pm

#476860

Looked into them but was never satisfied with the front join

The only car i ever saw done properly was Cool 56

This was done with the help of the Klaacks - may be get in contact with them

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Volkswagenboy Staggers Automotive.

2,437 posts · joined Jul 2005 · 17 Apr 2006, 3:05 pm

#476866

Sorry to butt in but where do you buy them, and how much for?
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1,983 posts · joined May 2003 · 17 Apr 2006, 3:22 pm

#476870

had them in a 63,i did not put them in, the install left some spots that rubbed the tint, so they need to be done right..

here is another set I have, that I dont need, 40 bucks?.. 0417 673 019..

Volkswagenboy Staggers Automotive.

2,437 posts · joined Jul 2005 · 17 Apr 2006, 3:27 pm

#476872

Cool, U2U sent. Sorry for hijacking your thread 555BUG.
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555bug WRX Bug Boy

1,123 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 17 Apr 2006, 5:04 pm

#476896

no stress, great price on the windows if you do get them I paid a lot more for mine 🙁 Ok so people are saying they are cool if installed correctlt with the correct hardware. As I am yet to purchase the celt channels and various rubbers does anyone have a comment on this aspect? I also have power windows so if thats a factoe then I'd like to know more also.

Cheers Stephen

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 17 Apr 2006, 5:44 pm

#476911

Hi,
I was going to have them in My 68.... thats the only late model beetle that had the double lifters....
late models only have the one lifter....
I don't think power windows would make any difference.
I was going to get the one piece windows and power kit from the UK... but was talked out of it by a local who had them in his 68 beetle, and then put the 1/4 windows back in.... now that would be hard....
You will need to find out who sells the outer scraper that goes around each end... normal ones are straight...
they look terrible... I have seen the others about...
Probably the same for the inner scraper too... ??
Those 68 double lifters fetch about $100+ each....
a fellow at Valla/Nambucca always has a heap of them for sale... but He's been collecting them for 20 years...
finally, I wouldn't recommend them....

they only have one thing in their favour....
they make it a lot more difficult to break into the car...
as the 1/4 window can be forced open - when the catch breaks off...
If You like the look of them....
Paint the 1/4 window frame etc black...
looks just as good... especially with tinted windows..

Lee

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555bug WRX Bug Boy

1,123 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 17 Apr 2006, 6:13 pm

#476920

Yes I am aware that there are two definite schools of thought towards once piece windows but that’s the way with almost everything Volkswagen. Generally however this urban myth is based of nothing more than someone once said "bla" I myself love to read other opinions i.e. Bob Hoover or Gene Berg (very outspoken fellows) but then make my own choices as I have never installed them I am not in a situation to comment. If the success or failure is based on skill and effort then I am sure these will be a great addition to my car that will be breaking several other assumptions.

Now does anyone have any recommendations about suitable rubbers?

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 17 Apr 2006, 6:44 pm

#476931

555bug wrote:Now does anyone have any recommendations about suitable rubbers?

How about people posts some pics........... of the front corner especially. For cars that live outside 24/7 those great gaps that are left with most kits and a put off in my opinion. If some one can show how to do a good water proof version i may think again

Futue te ipsum!!!

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 17 Apr 2006, 7:32 pm

#476953

ok this is what barry is talking about
the standard str8 rubbers just glue in place and look really daggy at the ends coz they dont follow the contour of the window
on my yellow bug i bought a length of the same scrapper and slitted and shapped it to match the curves-its a prick of a job but well worth the effort in the end
the standard 1 point lifters of 69 on beetles do the job fine
there just abit more steadier on the 68 only twin point lifters

Joel

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 17 Apr 2006, 7:36 pm

#476959

i was pretty unhappy with the overall quality of them so i never installed them on my Lbug
so if anyone around northern NSW/southern qld is interested i have a set of 68on bug 1pce window kits brand new
the scrapers are still in good nick but the channel is missing but i can get new stuff ifanyone is interested

Joel

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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 17 Apr 2006, 8:54 pm

#477016

sorry 555 bug,
the local who changed back to 1/4 windows had a 1976 Beetle not a 68 , but He said He had no problems with the single lifters... just didn't like them....
but He must have liked them at one stage.....??

He is a smoker.... maybe thats why....

I have seen cars with the rounded rubbers, but only in the past few years... I think the kits had the straight ones.
Vintage Vee Dub might know about them...
they seem to know most things....

and I agree about Bob Hoover...
He only has one point of view.... His...
Good reading though....
I was reading about free horsepower only a few days ago.
I can't remember whether it was something I have printed in a folder or on a website.....

Lee

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555bug WRX Bug Boy

1,123 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 18 Apr 2006, 11:24 am

#477232

all good, , i just want to get them installed the right way 🙂 as i said so much urban myth sorrounding vw's

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 18 Apr 2006, 12:42 pm

#477263

OK - here is a pic of Cool 56 that i found

Not the best pic of the windows but you can see a bit of the rubber set up i am talking about

Here is a link to the car

http://www.flatfour.org/cool56.html

Have a look at some of the other pics to get an idea

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555bug WRX Bug Boy

1,123 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 19 Apr 2006, 1:50 pm

#477813

i have some good shots of this car from valla a couple of years back.

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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 19 Apr 2006, 2:19 pm

#477827

Good pic

you can see exactly what i mean in your pic

If you are going to put one piecers in THAT is the finish you want

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 19 Apr 2006, 6:43 pm

#477962

ive never understood the gearstick in that car
maybe he likes a gear knob poking him in the eyes in top gear lol

Joel

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 19 Apr 2006, 6:47 pm

#477965

there was another oval at valla that same year done the same method
here it is at the nats

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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 19 Apr 2006, 9:11 pm

#478058

Hmmm.... another Klaack car.

I think that narrows down who can do the goods.

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Volkswagenboy Staggers Automotive.

2,437 posts · joined Jul 2005 · 19 Apr 2006, 9:25 pm

#478066

Klaack hey?
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555bug WRX Bug Boy

1,123 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 19 Apr 2006, 10:10 pm

#478083

so who has the contact details for Klaack vw? I need bits and advice in that order 🙂

Volkswagenboy Staggers Automotive.

2,437 posts · joined Jul 2005 · 19 Apr 2006, 10:17 pm

#478086

KLAACK: 02 9724 5901
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