gen/alt/fanhouseing question

bond Veteran Volks Folk

2,456 posts · joined Jul 2003 · 17 Apr 2006, 12:51 pm

#476833

have a 1600 fan shroud and an alternator stand on a type1 donk in a beetle - instead of putting in an alternator am i able to put in a kombi generator which sits just as snug in the alternator stand?

instead of changing electrics etc to 14v with an alternator... if however its my only option then ill go an alternator

thanks nick

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 17 Apr 2006, 1:40 pm

#476846

Hi

The alternator stand will take both a 12 volt generator and the alternator, but a generator stand will not take an alternator.

The charging system voltage on both units is about 13.5 volts, the alternator makes mores amps so you use either on your car.

Steve

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1,769 posts · joined Oct 2004 · 17 Apr 2006, 9:15 pm

#477039

1303Steve wrote:Hi

The alternator stand will take both a 12 volt generator and the alternator, but a generator stand will not take an alternator.

The charging system voltage on both units is about 13.5 volts, the alternator makes mores amps so you use either on your car.

Steve

Steve,
So what is the difference between the 2 stands? Is it just the length of the saddle that the alternator/generator sits in?
Can a genie stand be modded to fit an alt?
Cheers
Brendan

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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,474 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 17 Apr 2006, 9:21 pm

#477044

ive got a alternator stand at the old mans if you need one brendan

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bond Veteran Volks Folk

2,456 posts · joined Jul 2003 · 17 Apr 2006, 10:34 pm

#477109

i take it then that 6v gens were a different diameter therefore a different stand - 12v gens and alts are the same diameter and therefore the same stand?

no variance btw kombi and beetle 12v gens?

nick

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,474 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 17 Apr 2006, 10:49 pm

#477123

ok the 12v generator is smaller in diameter over all to the alternator which has an enlarged section towards the pulley. kombi generators are the same as the beetle but the alternators for the t4 motor (pancake) were different they were more like the moden day ones you see on cars now

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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 18 Apr 2006, 12:34 am

#477155

Hi

The stand is relieved at the front (looking at the motor, technically the rear of the motor) because of the large face on the Type 1 alternator, at the rear of the alternator is barrel section that goes back to the fan housing, this section is the same diameter as a 12 volt generator. I don't think there would be enough meat on a generator stand to modify it for an alternator.

Some Kombis had 38 amp generators, bugs had 30 amp generators.

Steve

bond Veteran Volks Folk

2,456 posts · joined Jul 2003 · 19 Apr 2006, 3:15 pm

#477860

yeah - i think ive confused myself amongst it all

currently have a 30amp genny and am putting a 38 amp kombi genny on - am going to put an electric gen regulator on so shouldnt have any problems?

thanks nick

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2,078 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 19 Apr 2006, 6:16 pm

#477945

Bond, I thunk you got it almost right.

Kombi's in 1600 T1 with a rear hanger mode had a 38 amp genny on a specific stand to suit the more load on the electrics. The T4 engine kombi 1700, 1800, 2000, etc had an anternator specific to that type of engine where the rear fan has a pulley to drive the alternator.

The 30 amp beetle T1 had a different, more common stand.

If you want to fit an alternator then you need a specific stand for the alternator, and sometimes a different fuel pump and carb mods, grinding all in the depends until you try.

Make sure you start with a fully charged battery and polarise it before you load the system.

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