Power steering to old school beetles

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 23 Apr 2006, 1:45 am

#479234

I have a few Subaru liberty power steering racks & thinking they would be a good fit for a vw , say a 1960 beetle .The pump would be at the rear of the car with larger lines running to the front .

Thoughts guys ??

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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 23 Apr 2006, 11:18 am

#479292

I recall a huge discussion on R&P conversions, bump steer etc etc here a couple of years ago...? Nice idea, but rather large geometry problems...?

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seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 23 Apr 2006, 4:13 pm

#479343

I going to have a good look at this

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11CAB If ya got it....Baja it

4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 23 Apr 2006, 5:32 pm

#479363

Would you need power steering on an ealry beetle?

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helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 23 Apr 2006, 5:55 pm

#479374

11CAB wrote:Would you need power steering on an ealry beetle?

Hmmmm. I second that question. My wife can turn the steering wheel on her beetle with one hand while driving at walking speed. Certainly not a heavy steering.

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urban_myth Officially Full-On Dubber

354 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 23 Apr 2006, 7:12 pm

#479419

Once lowered with wider wheels it becomes a bit of a problem. My dad looked into it a while back, and it is possible to use a camira rack and pinion setup with some custom tie rod ends. The main reason for using the camira setup was that the steering column connects to it in the centre. Uni joints would be needed to connected to the steering column as it wont line up. He put this setup into a few bay kombis with little bump steer at all.

helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 23 Apr 2006, 7:15 pm

#479422

I understand about the wider wheels. Her beetle has skinny tyres, and only lowered a little bit. I suppose it would also get heavier with a smaller steering wheel.

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5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 23 Apr 2006, 8:59 pm

#479515

urban_myth wrote:Once lowered with wider wheels it becomes a bit of a problem. My dad looked into it a while back, and it is possible to use a camira rack and pinion setup with some custom tie rod ends. The main reason for using the camira setup was that the steering column connects to it in the centre. Uni joints would be needed to connected to the steering column as it wont line up. He put this setup into a few bay kombis with little bump steer at all.

Yeah the Camira rack is nice as the tie rods are nice and long and pivot close to the centre

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Tonz Magonz Officially Full-On Dubber

201 posts · joined Apr 2005 · 23 Apr 2006, 9:12 pm

#479538

Urban myth,the camira rack into a kombi sounds good.Any pics of the conversion? I am looking at alternatives for a split window kombi with steering box problems. Cheers Tonz

urban_myth Officially Full-On Dubber

354 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 24 Apr 2006, 9:08 am

#479654

no pics sorry

tassupervee That really hurts doesnt it!

1,171 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 24 Apr 2006, 5:57 pm

#479794

There are quite a few power assisted racks available with cetrerd pickup points that the serious speedway boys use.
They are not particularly cheap but are bulletproof.

Do Camira racks come power assisted?

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Doug Sweetman Nil Bastardo Carborundum

2,128 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 24 Apr 2006, 6:22 pm

#479807

Semi interested in this as any 2nd hand rack has to be cheaper than a new Super beetle steering box....

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5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 24 Apr 2006, 7:19 pm

#479849

tassupervee wrote:There are quite a few power assisted racks available with cetrerd pickup points that the serious speedway boys use.
They are not particularly cheap but are bulletproof.

Do Camira racks come power assisted?

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yeah good question - I don't think PS was offered on Camira!

Try a late-model Daewoo instead.. which is not what gull has laying about!

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urban_myth Officially Full-On Dubber

354 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 24 Apr 2006, 11:17 pm

#480035

Power steering was definitely offered on camira's, go to the nearest pick a part and have a look. The custom bugs and buses stretched kombi had a camira power steering setup in it, as well as their gunmetal grey twincab.

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 · 29 Apr 2006, 10:12 pm

#482074

how do u go about fitting a camira steering rack?

i was considering the vforce one but i thinki i might crash if i bump the steering wheel with a 1:1.1 ratio.

Anthony

[ Edited on 29-4-2006 by 71superbug ]

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 30 Apr 2006, 2:25 am

#482146

I will be running 20" rims with wide black things & it will be very low

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5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 30 Apr 2006, 9:57 am

#482188

urban_myth wrote:Power steering was definitely offered on camira's, go to the nearest pick a part and have a look. The custom bugs and buses stretched kombi had a camira power steering setup in it, as well as their gunmetal grey twincab.

okay, I wasn't sure

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