wrx swap

liam66 Officially Full-On Dubber

260 posts · joined Oct 2005 · 23 May 2006, 2:24 pm

#491713

Hi Guys, I've got a old J and S buggy currently fitted with a 1500 ( or maybe 1600?)single port, disc front and swing axle.

The voices in my head reckon I need more power. Prob a wrx sti motor. Front cuts look to be pretty good value.
Obviously I'll need a conversion kit- radiator, bellhousing fans, fuel pump , sump . Anything else?

Do I need a Kombi gearbox? Is there a particular one to get? Clutch , flywheel starter?
What to look out for?

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 23 May 2006, 4:47 pm

#491772

aftermarket ECU. oh and patience, time and $$$$

Lbug box will do for your car, lots of guys are using them and they seem to survive. I'd only go kombi if you are using it offroad with big tyres.

"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 · 23 May 2006, 10:35 pm

#491942

Do a search..there are heaps of threads outlining what is needed.

How much is the buggy registered as weighing...or is in off road? The sti motor would be crazy in a j & S buggy. It has to weigh 860kg in nsw for the 2.0 wrx motor.
Matt

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 24 May 2006, 9:12 am

#492040

Matt, as I understand it, the original car that the pan came from had to weigh 860kg from the factory. Anyway, by the time he puts the STi motor and everything needed in it will weigh close to that anyway.

"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 · 24 May 2006, 1:09 pm

#492127

yeah but it goes by ORIGINAL tare weight doesnt it?

not including modifications .etc.

Anthony

liam66 Officially Full-On Dubber

260 posts · joined Oct 2005 · 27 May 2006, 9:41 am

#493211

Spoke with the engineer about this today.
He's really not keen on the wrx swap. Maybe a 2.2 ( but then i still need a ugly big radiator up front...
Is a kombi 2 litre too heavy?

Think I'll just get it on the road with the 1500/1600 and consider my engine choice after I've driven it.

boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 · 27 May 2006, 6:08 pm

#493370

Not necessarily the original weight...im not exactly sure the specifics, although our cars require weigh bridge cert for engineering..mine was 910kg, however my seats are stupidly heavy.the cars fall in categories of weights thus a 180sx can have a 4.0 lexus in it, our minimum is 860 and max capacity is approx 2.5 na or 2.0t.
you car can be engineered, just jave to speak to right guy.

Matt

boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 · 27 May 2006, 8:02 pm

#493418

You can hide that radiator..its not that difficult especially if you have superbug.
Matt

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 27 May 2006, 10:15 pm

#493477

liam66 wrote:Spoke with the engineer about this today.
He's really not keen on the wrx swap. Maybe a 2.2 ( but then i still need a ugly big radiator up front...
Is a kombi 2 litre too heavy?

Think I'll just get it on the road with the 1500/1600 and consider my engine choice after I've driven it.

find a new engineer. It's legal and there are few buggies with ej20Ts now so it shouldn't be a drama. It's all about brakes and stuff...BTW, you might want some wheelie bars.:P

"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 28 May 2006, 12:07 am

#493527

Hi

If the engineer gives you grief, talk to another, some are very conservitive. What state are you in? The stock weight calculation per cc is 2.5 x stock weight for a turbo car and 3 x for NA in NSW, Im not sure how they work this out for beach buggies. I saw a QLD buggy at Valla a few years ago and I hardly noticed the radiator, it was the fan turning on that made me notice it.

Steve

boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 · 28 May 2006, 8:49 am

#493588

Hey Steve, how is the toy coming along???

ratbug aka toddy101

439 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 28 May 2006, 2:18 pm

#493675

Does anyone know the original weights for the various model beetles? To put in a 2litre turbo engine I need to give the engineer some evidence that the original unmodified weight of the beetle when new was 800kg or more (using the *2.5 rule).
My Pan is a 67, but also wondering on a semi auto and an early 70's pan say...

As for a clutch, a Kennedy stage 2 pressure plate should be the go.. Stay away from brass button puck clutches if you want to drive it on the road, I've learnt my lesson by going this slightly cheaper option and destroying it within a year, the kennedy feels so much better.

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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 28 May 2006, 11:50 pm

#494010

boof2332 wrote:Hey Steve, how is the toy coming along???

Hi

Its a bit slow at the moment, I have some renovations inside that need finishing and painting. Hopefully I can get back to it soon. Then I have a colapsed retaining wall to deal with, been quoted around $70 - 80,000 to fix it, looks like I will be doing that as well, stupid treated pine does rot. Im trying to get the car ready for paint before the retaining wall so I can send it away and then its off my hands for a while.

Steve

Steve

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 28 May 2006, 11:52 pm

#494011

Hi

I forgot about the subject, get the latest pan you before 1972, 1500 auto would be good to get your starting weight up.

Steve