whats the best deep sump for type 1?

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3,436 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 3 Jun 2006, 3:13 am

#496078

wats the best out there to get, good value and also good ground clearance? :thumb

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1,772 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 3 Jun 2006, 9:02 am

#496105

Why do you want/need one, Sam?

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shiftyvw Wolfsburg Wizard

523 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 3 Jun 2006, 9:42 am

#496123

CB make one called a thinline which is similar capacity to the normal deep sumps but half the depth.

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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 3 Jun 2006, 11:11 am

#496142

I just have the small sump with a finer gauze filter inside..
I think they help cool the oil....
as they are a heatsink with fins..

and if You have a large engine the larger ones are good..
CB Performance make some.....
I saw one was a low profile type even higher than My small sump....

You just have to remember that they are held on with those 8 small screws.... maybe 6 small screws ??
so if they hit anything.... they are history...
Now I'm scaring Myself ......

just don't use the nyloc nuts supplied as they leak...
oil comes down the thread.... original nuts...

Lee

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1,230 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 3 Jun 2006, 5:05 pm

#496213

Stan Pobjoy's anti-surge sump is the best because its Aussie made:thumb:thumb

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620 posts · joined Apr 2004 · 3 Jun 2006, 5:15 pm

#496215

bus914 wrote:Stan Pobjoy's anti-surge sump is the best because its Aussie made:thumb:thumb

And it works!

Great quality too!

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shiftyvw Wolfsburg Wizard

523 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 4 Jun 2006, 12:57 am

#496344

Ive never actually seen a pobjoy sump thing, i thought they were more like a surge control/pickup extension, but didnt really add any oil capacity??

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1,806 posts · joined Jul 2003 · 4 Jun 2006, 4:13 am

#496357

Pobjoy, Berg deep sump, Frank Kleinig, Empi ( http://www.800luvbugg.com/shop?frame=2.17.5716 ). Everyone says that Stan Pobjoy's one works best, but with less clearance than the others.

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8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 4 Jun 2006, 8:27 pm

#496609

shiftyvw wrote:Ive never actually seen a pobjoy sump thing, i thought they were more like a surge control/pickup extension, but didnt really add any oil capacity??

Yep that's right...........only adds about 500ml to the oil capacity.

They are designed for stopping oil surge in motor sport, and they are one of the only ones that do!

If you want increased oil capacity then best to go for a DEEP sump, not a POBJOY ANTI-SURGE sump.

Just depends on what you are doing with the car.:thumb

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3,436 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 4 Jun 2006, 8:33 pm

#496616

yeh i think anti surge is wat im after, but i want the best ground clearance possible, thanks for the help guys

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5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 4 Jun 2006, 8:46 pm

#496627

my berg ones never hung any lower than the muffler or gearbox front mount. never bottomed them out.

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3,436 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 4 Jun 2006, 8:53 pm

#496634

wat speciific berg one have u got?

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5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 4 Jun 2006, 9:09 pm

#496649

both street ones.

use the narrower ones for under 5500 rpm,(GB210)

use the wider street one for up to 8000rpm (GB210A)

difference in ground clearance between the two is not worth worrying about. width is different.

http://www.geneberg.com/cat.php?name=Ultra%20High-performance%20Street%20and%20Race%20Sump&cPath=106

there was one on ebay, not sure if the auction has finished yet, it is the 210A

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3,436 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 4 Jun 2006, 9:14 pm

#496655

thanks mate

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5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 4 Jun 2006, 9:25 pm

#496664

no probs, the main time to be warry of the sump is when rolling down off speed humps. as the back wheels roll off the hump, suspension bounce will see the sumps bottom out,

as you no doubt know, the exhaust yells out when to stop when navigating driveways, slopes etc

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16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 5 Jun 2006, 7:40 am

#496749

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1,230 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 5 Jun 2006, 8:21 pm

#497011

the Pobjoy sump is only about 1 7/8in tall. + whatever height your sump plate is.

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3,436 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 5 Jun 2006, 10:06 pm

#497076

yeh thats not too bad, where do u get them from?

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5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 5 Jun 2006, 10:12 pm

#497081

VWFOOL wrote:yeh thats not too bad, where do u get them from?

i hope your being funny Sam!

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1,230 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 6 Jun 2006, 12:16 am

#497125

thought i should mention that i didn't include the sump plate in the measurement. so add that on when checking clearance.

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2,456 posts · joined Jul 2003 · 6 Jun 2006, 11:37 am

#497207

just sold my berg sump for $50

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