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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#49412
I have had adaptors fitted to My front torsion bars on My 68AutoBug and when they are assembled etc.. the ball joints don't look like they are pointing in the correct direction... Any one have a photo before the axle hubs go on... I can't really see how they can be fitted incorrectly, but they certainly look WRONG.... HELP..!!
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jboy82 Seriously Crusin Dubber

105 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#49477
I'm not sure what you mean exactly,
I recently replaced my ball joint(after one came loose!, luckily I was going slow, somebody up there still likes me!). The top torsion arm balljoints should face down and the bottom ones should face up with the marking on them facing forward(in relation to the car). The torsion arms should trail in the direction of the rear of the car. I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but that's all I can think of.

Josh.

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#49640
Thanks Josh,
The top one is pointed towards the front bumper... or towards the ground... both extremes of adjustment... I wonder if that is OK and I have to push them under somehow.... it just seems they are too far forward pointing... the lower ones seem too far in the opposite direction.....
So it seems neither are correctly positioned.. I will have to see how I go, and undo the locking set screws to find the correct setting then Maybe weld it all up... I should have just cut the originals and adjusted them and welded them back up... Oh Well.. live & learn... I JUST wish it wasn't so hard learning...😀😠:bounce:bounce:bounce

[Edited on 21-5-2003 by 68AutoBug]
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

J&SBlue Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#49749
When you say you had "adaptors fitted " to your front beam, do you mean adjusters ? or am I completely on the wrong track ??

It would be great if you could take a photo to show us what the problem is.

I just replaced my front beam on the weekend and while it does look a bit strange when the stub axle is out it's fine once you put that back in place. You have to put in a bit of effort to spread the ball joints apart to fit the stub axle in place.

Not sure if this is helping.....

Mark.

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#49800
Sorry Mark,
Yes the adaptors are actually the adjusters..[I should My post before sending it....] it looks like they have been put in around the wrong way... ie. the locating sleeve in the centre with the grub screw has been put in incorrectly, so the ball joint arms are facing the wrong way...
I have 3 of the ball joint arms on the torsion bars.. the other one is becoming a bit of a problem... once they are ALL together with the stub axles etc... I will have to modify the locating sleeve by cutting another hole for the grub screw... and probably rewelding the adjuster brackets.... or something similar....
I will attempt to take a pic tomorrow ..
😠:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce😠🙁🙁
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

J&SBlue Officially Full-On Dubber

307 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#49898
mmmmm...sounds like a pain in the ass...

Hope you get it sorted out....can you take the beam back to whoever put the adjusters in and get them to fix it ??

Mark.