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IRS is suppose to knock out alot of camber, then y are my tyres...

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bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#500483
On the rear wheels of my 69, the tread wear is un-even. on each tyre, the outter most tread has still got plenty, on the inner most position, its thinner.

Its IRS. Hmm, being of that wear, if the IRS still does have a little bit of camber in it, would that mean the car musta been lowered?

[ Edited on 14/6/2006 by bajachris88 ]
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PurpleT3 Fahrvergnugen

880 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#500487
Camber can be set on IRS rears. Just because you have some negative camber, it does not necessarily mean it's been lowered.
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bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#500491
good then, cause thats not what i want, hehe.

Cheers mate.
Will look in the idiots guide for IRS camber adjustment.

does it matter the the gearbox and axels are removed?

[ Edited on 14/6/2006 by bajachris88 ]
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PurpleT3 Fahrvergnugen

880 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#500516
It shouldn't. Apart form the additional weight of the gear box, which will tend to lower it a bit more.
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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#500518
Manufacturing tolerance and wear of the torsion bars' outer rubber bushes can allow the car's tyres to wear unevenly. Replace bushes; regular tyre rotation helps. So does a proper wheel alignment - toe-out will attack tyres' inner edges more than camber will
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bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#500519
cheers guys.

Will have to. The front end has a bit of toe out, from waht the eye can see. And gotta adjust teh torsion bar suspension later anyways, so i could replace the brushes then :P

In good time.... these holidays, hoping to go nuts on the little car.
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69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#500543
My Sons Baja wears the inner rear tyres out long before the outer edge...
with IRS rear end....

Non IRS.. ie Swing axles actually move from one degree to another as they go over bumps etc....
so they can wear that way too....

and the early Beetles that haven't been lowered can go from Negative to positive camber etc
back & forth over bumps....

I've seen some great photos of Beetles in early car rallies at speed....
cross ply tyres etc....
Positive Camber at 72 MPH isn't a good thing...
Its a wonder they didn't all roll over.....

well some of them did.....

I rolled a 1962 Beetle about 1969.....
coming off the Hexham bridge and turned left....
tipped on its roof....
Got some helpers to push it back up the right way....
started it up and away I went.....
No Seat Belts then either.....


Lee
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PrettyBlueBug Almost over it...

2,032 posts · joined May 2005 ·

#500560
😂 That would have been funny to see, a Beetle flipping over then being flipped back and able to continue driving!

bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#500561
pretty interesting story :P

Hope to get a few myself sooner or later when the cars running. Just don't want to die or destroy it in the process, hehe.

Yeah, Positive camber is a scare. Jeff Hibbard says the same thing in his book. How did u deal without seatbelts? few bruises?
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69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!

shiftyvw Wolfsburg Wizard

523 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#500594
Incorrect toew will cause worse tyre wear problems. Replace the bushes, set the height you want and then get the car professionally aligned, preferably by someone with a bit of experience. Aligning it with soggy bushes is a waste of time.
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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#500643
shiftyvw wrote:Incorrect toew will cause worse tyre wear problems. Replace the bushes, set the height you want and then get the car professionally aligned, preferably by someone with a bit of experience. Aligning it with soggy bushes is a waste of time.
I forgot about that....
after renewing the bushes I suppose the rear end will need a rear wheel alignment...
although it would have been correct when the car was made....
and the bushes wore out.... and You replace them....
this is IRS I'm looking at.....
but all VW rear ends are adjustable.....

plus You don't know if its been moved... adjusted.... etc

so, a rear wheel alignment is best....
but finding someone these days, who has actually done one before..!!!

Now that would be hard....

Lee
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#500664
IRS naturally have a few degrees -ve camber so they will always wear the inside tread more than the outside ive had 3 irs bugs and one swinger and they're all like it tho irs sit slightly positive when jacked up in the air for some reason

Joel