WTD-oil tank for this-

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 29 Mar 2006, 9:01 pm

#469317

Need an oil tank to suit a motor with a dry sump.It's an Autocraft with a 3 stage pump.

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Volkswagenboy Staggers Automotive.

2,437 posts · joined Jul 2005 · 29 Mar 2006, 9:04 pm

#469320

I guess it'd be too expensive getting a custom tank made hey?
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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 30 Mar 2006, 6:10 pm

#469682

No-I can build it myself if necessary-need to know where and how many fittings to weld in.New to this game.

Grey 57 Old Grey Cruiser

2,937 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 31 Mar 2006, 6:38 am

#469902

NB, I have a dry sump 911 6 in my Karman. It has a custom built tank mounted in the front. You might consider a 911 tank set up. Heres a pic of the plumbing set up for an early 911.

Cheers
Dean

Just realised that the pic might be a bit confusing with out some further explanantion.

The tank actually only has one outlet at the bottom. The exploded diagram shows the different set ups for both the manual trans and sportomatic 911. The plumbing is different for each as the Sportomatic has an external oil pump driven off the end of one of the engine cams.
Oil tank return is also just one back thru the oil filter. :thumb

[ Edited on 30-3-2006 by Grey 57 ]

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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 31 Mar 2006, 12:09 pm

#470028

Bit hard to figure-is 15 an oil cooler.Looks like the filter is screwed straight to the tank-so must be plumbed internally.Pretty flash-looks like a oil level guage fitted as well.Mine has a couple one way valves in the pipe work, which I assume prevents oil draining into sump from the tank when not running.

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3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 31 Mar 2006, 12:25 pm

#470033

I'll look thru my archives might have some pics of Dave Stoker's set up for ideas.

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 31 Mar 2006, 3:38 pm

#470080

Cheers-that would be helpful.

Grey 57 Old Grey Cruiser

2,937 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 1 Apr 2006, 6:00 pm

#470420

NB the oil cooler is mounted on the engine. The oil passes thru the pump and only passes thru the cooler if the thermostat is open.

speedster356 Plastic not Classic Racing

1,624 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 1 Apr 2006, 7:45 pm

#470457

This is a typical aftermarket dry sump oil tank.
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#470567

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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 2 Apr 2006, 10:12 am

#470609

Thanks-things are looking better now.

Grey 57 Old Grey Cruiser

2,937 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 2 Apr 2006, 10:45 pm

#470905

NB here is a clearer pic of the 911 or 914/6 dry sump oiling set up. Hope this helps mate.

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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 3 Apr 2006, 9:21 pm

#471311

Thanks-good pic.I assume item 5 is the thermostat.Looks like only one pump section and one pick up point for the crankcase.Does the bottom of the case have a large deep dish to get the oil back to the pickup quickly?

shiftyvw Wolfsburg Wizard

523 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 3 Apr 2006, 10:38 pm

#471381

correct 5 is the thermostat. the 911 is only a single scavenge stage, and the whole pump is internal inside the crankcase as well. The 911 case is quite narrow at the sump, not squared off like a vw so oil would tend to make its own way to the pickup i would think.

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Grey 57 Old Grey Cruiser

2,937 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 4 Apr 2006, 7:26 am

#471445

Yep thats correct 5 is the thermostat. ShiftyVW is right on the money. These motors also have a safety valve that directs oil back to the pump from the crankcase if the line from the tank is blocked. No idea how this works.

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16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 4 Apr 2006, 1:24 pm

#471531

theres an In n out line and probally better if you add line vents for the breathers as well.

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4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 23 Apr 2006, 3:58 pm

#479333

Mate send me the size your looking for and I can tig one together out of stainless steel for you & pressure test it . seagull

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dragvw2180 Officially Full-On Dubber

393 posts · joined May 2006 · 14 Jun 2006, 1:44 am

#500347

On my 69 911E ,looked the same as in pics,If had a check valve in line did not work,oil level in tank would equal the sump after sitting all night,after starting would pump excess into tank from scavange side.It didn't hurt anything,just would let it warm up until oil level guage read correctly,and it was nice having the filter mounted in tank,easy access.

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bugbrained Officially Full-On Dubber

368 posts · joined Apr 2006 · 14 Jun 2006, 6:44 pm

#500623

is this what your after = one 911 oil tank with filter attachment and oil lines .

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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 14 Jun 2006, 8:12 pm

#500681

Thanks for your reply-should have probably posted something-I made one up a couple of weeks ago.Ended up using an old water fire extinguisher-silver soldered in some steel fittings and used a Type3 rear oil filler tube and dip stick in the top-the dip stick is exactly the correct length.

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368 posts · joined Apr 2006 · 14 Jun 2006, 8:34 pm

#500687

lol cheeky buggar ( steals that idea )👍