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squizy Thinking about another dub...maybe

4,082 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#505076
I'm thinking of doing some 36 horse powerup fun. I found this link on the Samba.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96565

Have anyone got an idea as to what carbs and manifolds could be used to make a twincarb setup, and what exhaust (preferable new or NOS) could be used on the narrow 1192 block that will exit the rear cutouts (not Okrasa thanks....lol). Want to keep it old school and simple.

koolkarmakombi enkarmarising

2,078 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#505078
why not give it more cubes,

probably your cheapest and most efficient power up.

kkk
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Doug Sweetman Nil Bastardo Carborundum

2,128 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#505118
My old man picked up (from where I dont know) a pair of 36hp manifolds for (I think) a pair of 28 pict carbies. They would be my first guess.

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#505120
I got me some single port manifolds and carbies. I think they're early type 3 but they'd do the trick. You'd need to make up a linkage and put some electric chokes on them but they be the go I reckon. I'll take a pic of em for ya.

My mate had them on a 1200 years back and said it spun like a top with them. The carbs need a rebuild and it all needs a bit of a clean up but it's not too hard. There are kits available for them, Volkbahn sells them. Do you want them? Make me an offer. What the heck, for $50 I'll throw in a 009 dizzy to go with them. 😉




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squizy Thinking about another dub...maybe

4,082 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#505136
Thanks Pete - I'll see what the word is on what can be done before taking any steps. I've got some questions in for Doddy too.

I've found an Okrasa replica exhaust on CIP1 but it's too expensive for my liking. May have to get something custom made up. Where's my mate Brendan???

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#505243
Liddle bruddah might have something to inspire you! 😉
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#505386
Squizy U need the Ken Virgin twin carby set up

Gives u heaps of torque add a early Kombi mechanical dissy anda set of extractors It will go up the big hill out of the dipper in top gear no probs

I had this set up on my Oval for a few years... its still sitting on the shelf n N4S sorry
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

lardo Officially Full-On Dubber

288 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#505391
Dave, What setup does ray pleydon run on his beetle might be of some help.

squizy Thinking about another dub...maybe

4,082 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#505394
Onya Dave I knew you wouldn't be able to resist this subject.

Just quickly searching, there's not much that I can find the on Ken Virgin setup. Getting my hands on something original may prove hard, so do you know what his setup was? Was it similar to Okrasa Pre-A spec?

Ideally, I'm looking for the word on what twin carb setup would work - be it 28 pict, and what aftermarket exhaust I can use? I've found an Okrasa / Abarth style reproduction but that's big bickies US$.

Keep the tips coming. :thumb

[ Edited on 26-6-2006 by squizy ]

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#505440
I think Ray has a home made set up will ask him next week when i C him
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


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71EJVan Officially Full-On Dubber

352 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#505500
Give me the heads and we'll do some porting work.

Brendan
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squizy Thinking about another dub...maybe

4,082 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#505509
Don't you worry Brendan, that is certainly covered on the Samba link. I was thinking more along the lines of you educating me on welding skills. 😍

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#505665
I have what you are after, when are you down next?


vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#505821
heres a pic of one of the Alloy mainifolds that were different to the Ken Virgin set up

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squizy Thinking about another dub...maybe

4,082 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#505826
Thanks Dave. Do you know what size carby they are?

Craig - what you got mate? I'm down all the time - Thursday and Friday this week.

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#505828
here is a pic of the Ken Virgin set up note the carby is at 90degrees to the Alloy type and the mainifold is a steel tubing

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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#505830
the Virgin set up had a crossbar linkage that ran behind the fan housing where as the Alloy mainfolds had the lingkage set up in front of the fan housing

heres a pic of the Virgin linkages if you can see it

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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#505832
Squize there origional 36Hp carbies 28pic but you can use the 40hp carbies 28pics or even 30pics of a 1300 engine they will work and probally easier to get and set up with jets.
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


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HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!

3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#505858
Get a Judson, or even better a Shorrock!

squizy Thinking about another dub...maybe

4,082 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#505949
HotRodMatt wrote:Get a Judson, or even better a Shorrock!
$$$$$$$!!! Your shout Matt me ol' pal....

I did however find a nice judson site with a shiteload of stuff for sale. Scared the crap out of me.

koolkarmakombi enkarmarising

2,078 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#505965
N02 mate, that would make it go some!


How much do you want to do to it, bolt on or more serious?
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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#506000
36hp was 28pci I think.
40hp and later used "pict"....I am getting old timers disease.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#506205
I found that the Twin Carbies gave better torque than the Judson.

Much quite to drive on the road every day as well.

I am getting old timers disease.
Dave thats called CRAFT

Carnt remember a F/ing thing
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