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ren Wolfsburg Wizard

629 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#513072
Hi guys. I need a igntion/steering column assembly for early type 3

type3lover in the garage...

796 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#513075
Hi Ren,
I've got a good one with the original VW key.
U2U if you're interested.
Cheers, Toby :thumb
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DallanMulley Seriously Crusin Dubber

145 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·

#513176
How early I have bits from a 64

ren Wolfsburg Wizard

629 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#513187
not sure when they changed (ie 64 to 66) .....I'll do some research on Samba and try to come up with some more detailed info....

1500S Custom Title Time!

1,418 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#513287
Is your type 3 an OZ assembled one or an imported one? The normal OZ assembled one 64-67 was the switch which is in the column bracket and no steering lock. The imported type had the ignition ACROSS the top of the column and incorporated a steering lock. This finished on the 63 models here but did still appear on the 65 1500S and some early 66 Fastbacks. Photo is of LHD but same column/switch. Hope this helps.

DH



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type3lover in the garage...

796 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#513437
This is what I have. It's from a 67 square. My 68 notch has the same thing...

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1500S Custom Title Time!

1,418 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#513499
Thanks for that pic. Saved me looking! That is the one on all the OZ built ones and there should be plenty of them at bargain basement prices. The one shown in my pic with the steering lock is worth an arm and a leg if you can find one. The last NOS one I saw had an asking price of $250 and that was about 4 years back (except for the NOS one I bought at the Nats for $30 two years back!!) 😵.

DH







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ren Wolfsburg Wizard

629 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#513501
Ok I guess I'll just get a cheapy one then, 1500s. I'll check to see if I have the one in your pic lover, because I might have just overestimated how much there was to the assembly! I'll let you know if I want to buy your spare one. Pm me with a price including postage.....Thanks!

type3lover in the garage...

796 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#513510
U2U sent Ren!
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1500S Custom Title Time!

1,418 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#513541
A clearer pic for those "newbie" Type Three followers who still aren't sure of these different assemblies. Parts are really starting to get rare. Compare with post from Type3lover which is the simpler, non-lockable one which has the column with the Bug style indicator arm.

DH





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type3lover in the garage...

796 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#513545
1500S does that one have a steering lock?
I have never seen that in an early type 3, then again I guess I haven't seen that many!
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1500S Custom Title Time!

1,418 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#513552
Yes, it does have the steering lock. This style was in all of those early imported 1963 1500N and up to 1965 1500S. Not sure if they continued with them until around 1968 on the Euro and US models although some photos suggest this. Some early imported 66 Fastbacks were also seen with these columns here in Sydney. All locally produced models from 1964 had the "cheapie" Bug version of indicator arm and the "hang off the side" ignition switch/column bracket.

DH

type3lover in the garage...

796 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#513586
Cool. My compliance plate says "made in germany". Confused a little...
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1500S Custom Title Time!

1,418 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#513768
Near all parts were made in Germany, came here in kits and just assembled here hence the "made in Germany" plate.

DH

DallanMulley Seriously Crusin Dubber

145 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·

#513889
I have a clamp for the old type and I utilised a beetle lock for my wagen.

ren Wolfsburg Wizard

629 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#513900
Ok, who has pics of both types of indicator arm, because the one I have ready to install looks like it doesn't suit the assembly I have....(we need to start a general type 3 forum!)

1500S Custom Title Time!

1,418 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#513945
Imported style has the combined indicator arm/ignition switch/lock all in one diecast unit. Compare with post from Type3lover where ignition switch is on bracket. The indicator assembly is visable at top of pic as per Bug style except MOST type 3s had the dimmer button in the indicator arm rather than foot operated switch on firewall.

DH





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Dyno Officially Full-On Dubber

279 posts · joined May 2005 ·

#515432
if you are nice and make a reasonable offer, I can help. Are you after just the switch or the column aswell, I have available good used columns without keys( I will get one cut before posting), good used with keys, NOS columns(with two NOS keys each), NOS arms( both brands) and NOS switch assemblies(both brands complete with 2 NOS keys each). Oh, the switches are both locking and non locking(61 model only) for the column you have on your German built 's'.

ren Wolfsburg Wizard

629 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#515976
from what I've learnt from this thread, I think all i need now is the barrel and wiring etc.. But my late notch has that w/keys intact. So could I just use that.... (thanks for the offer Dyno, sounds like you've got a stockpile of type 3 goods)

Dyno Officially Full-On Dubber

279 posts · joined May 2005 ·

#518309
Although the fact that it is a fasty lets it down, it is a full import 65 fastback, one of the first...not only this, I spotted the factory red dash, armrests and steering column/wheel (grey/black was standard, red and brown were the options), factory left mirror(not an upside down right side mirror like found on oz cars)centre rear seat folding armrest(only on imports), and steel sliding sunroof!!!. This model also has factory disc brakes and 1600cc and has 4 stud rims, all in 65! It also has the hubcaps seen only on the 1966 euro bugs(1500 only). I wonder who has it?

Dyno Officially Full-On Dubber

279 posts · joined May 2005 ·

#518311
Although the fact that it is a fasty lets it down, it is a full import 65 fastback, one of the first...not only this, I spotted the factory red dash, armrests and steering column/wheel (grey/black was standard, red and brown were the options), factory left mirror(not an upside down right side mirror like found on oz cars)centre rear seat folding armrest(only on imports), and steel sliding sunroof!!!. This model also has factory disc brakes and 1600cc and has 4 stud rims, all in 65! It also has the hubcaps seen only on the 1966 euro bugs(1500 only). I wonder who has it?

1500S Custom Title Time!

1,418 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#518395
Although produced in 1965 it is actually the 1966 model which is the norm for all VWs. The model year starts at around August the previous year. !966 was the official year but from Aug/Sept 1965. Also, don't forget that the LEFT mirror was the standard and the right mirror was the slightly odd one made for the rh version. If there was a righthand on the left, then the end user would have put it there. All early Fastbacks had the long armrests on doors. All Fastbacks were 1600.

Europe had all these things and leftover parts no doubt were sent to OZ andused up. First disks here was about 1968.

DH

Dyno Officially Full-On Dubber

279 posts · joined May 2005 ·

#518656
yes you are right but the imports still had discs, the locally built models had them in 68 , there is nothing odd about the factory mirrors either, VW made a left and right for these cars, just like they made a left and right cats eye mirror for the 61 model, we never saw them here( only on promo vehiches).