type 3 alternator conversion

type3lover in the garage...

796 posts · joined Feb 2005 · 10 Aug 2006, 4:27 pm

#520881

Hi volks,
Is there an alternator available to fit a type 3 engine without serious mods needed?
I have read this article but it's only a baby @ 40amps

I have a magna alternator that's 85amps which could be made to fit by grinding away a bit of the old generator perch on the fan housing and relocating one of the studs that holds the clamp in place. I'd just need a suitable pulley (correct size for spin speed and groove for the V belt) and have to remove the cooling fan from the front.
For cooling I would put a hole in the bottom of the alternator so it would receive cooling air in the same way that the genny did.

Retaining the generator is no longer an option since I'll have halogen headlamps, EFI, a decent stereo with amplifier and later on I'll need to run a thermofan for the radiator (water to air intercooler) and scavenge pump. At a guess the maximum demand would be around 60 amps!

I'm looking for ideas please...

Cheers, Toby :thumb

Any auto elec's out there want to swap stuff? I have 2 excellent 12V generators here.

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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 10 Aug 2006, 5:03 pm

#520898

your transplant idea sounds good and easy!

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bus914 Custom Title Time!

1,230 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 10 Aug 2006, 5:44 pm

#520919

http://www.icbm.org/erkson/ttt/engine/gen2alt.htm

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type3lover in the garage...

796 posts · joined Feb 2005 · 10 Aug 2006, 5:55 pm

#520922

Jack, thanks for posting the link properly. I linked to that article above but it's hard to see unless you mouse over the word "article" in my original post.

It would be better if there was something with similar width to the generator to avoid hacking things up. I'm going to take measurements and pics shortly if I decide to use the magna option and can post this for others.
This alternator (like many) has an internal regulator.

Am I right in saying that ALL type 3's had generators? If that is so then there must be a few people keen to do a conversion??

Cheers, T :thumb

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mackaymanx Custom Title Time!

1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 · 10 Aug 2006, 6:27 pm

#520932

Try here

http://www.theddb.com/new/DDB_products/alternator_kit.html

http://www.theddb.com/new/DDB_products/ddb_alternator_install/install_instructions.html

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bus914 Custom Title Time!

1,230 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 10 Aug 2006, 7:10 pm

#520954

i didn't even notice the link in your post. i think you are right that all type 3's had generators.

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type3lover in the garage...

796 posts · joined Feb 2005 · 10 Aug 2006, 8:04 pm

#520990

Basic mock-up before clearancing the fanhousing...do I really want to do this or ???

[ Edited on 10-8-2006 by type3lover ]

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5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 10 Aug 2006, 9:29 pm

#521032

Shit yeah!

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type3lover in the garage...

796 posts · joined Feb 2005 · 10 Aug 2006, 9:32 pm

#521035

Better make sure the dizzy I plan to use will fit first of all eh!?

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5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 11 Aug 2006, 4:30 pm

#521242

type3lover wrote:Better make sure the dizzy I plan to use will fit first of all eh!?

Naaaah...give it coil packs and EFI!

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type3lover in the garage...

796 posts · joined Feb 2005 · 11 Aug 2006, 4:51 pm

#521247

One day my friend...one day!!

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type3lover in the garage...

796 posts · joined Feb 2005 · 29 Aug 2006, 2:27 pm

#527827

Just a brief update on this...

This morning I visited my local wrecker and checked out a few different alternators.
There were a couple that looked suitable. Similar shape to the Nippondenso one in this article : http://www.icbm.org/erkson/ttt/engine/gen2alt.htm.

First one was a 12V 55A from a Hyundai, second one was also 12V 55A made by Mitsubishi and had the correct pulley for a v-belt. Both had internal cooling fans which really is a better way to go than modifying an external fan model to fit (remove fan and open up a bit of the housing to accept air like the generator does). They were also smaller than the magna ones I have.
Gonna keep looking...

[ Edited on 29-8-2006 by type3lover ]

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electricmonk Officially Full-On Dubber

287 posts · joined Aug 2005 · 14 Jun 2007, 12:23 pm

#596894

Did you end up getting anywhere with this? I have been taking a quick look in the wreckers when I am there but so far have not found anything that looks "right" Perhaps a post in the new Type 3 section could help a few people out or at least get more Type3 people on the job 🙂

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type3lover in the garage...

796 posts · joined Feb 2005 · 17 Jun 2007, 8:23 pm

#597536

Hey how u doing?
No progress on the alternator front yet.
I actually put the generator back in for now...the engine isn't running yet though.
I'm still saving for the megasquirt :-) but the conversion is going to happen - it has to. A 30A DC genny isn't going to make the cut on this project.
Surely others have gone down this road on a type 3. Anyone?

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lulu94 Wolfsburg Wizard

449 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 15 Nov 2007, 10:39 pm

#621016

take a look at the ugly type 3 ghia posted via a link in thr type 3 area.
thread has a witty title... but its an ugly 68 type3 ghia with a generator fitted, looks factory.

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