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ruckus Veteran Volks Folk

2,118 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#520844
My '71 has been laid up for a couple of weeks now due to an unknown brake fault. I was coming home a couple of weeks ago when there was a bit of a 'clunk' and the aweful sound of metal-on-metal (rotating). Thankfully it happened as I was braking for the speed bump just near my place.

I finally got some time to jack it up and spin the wheels a bit and found that the calipers seem to be locked on slightly on both sides. The wheels will spin, but you can hear the pads lightly scraping the disks.


I'm assuming it could be some lock in the pressure in the braking system?


Thanks for any help.

bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#520848
am having the same problem as we speak, would like to see what others think bout it. will definitely keep an eye on this thread.
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sinecure Want another... :(

1,031 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#520880
Are the calipers on vws floating units?
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sinecure Want another... :(

1,031 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#520885
If they do float, maybe the guide bolts have seized, or one may have even snapped. How does the pedal feel? Have you bled a little fluid to see if there is pressure?

The "bit of a 'clunk' and the aweful sound of metal-on-metal (rotating)" you described makes me think maybe a friction pad has separated from its backing plate, but unlikely for both sides to do it at the same time. Again, possibly a broken retaining/float guide bolt.

Pop a caliper off to be sure, and if the bolts are intact, see if you can compress the piston with a g-clamp (or maybe even the correct tool if you're lucky enough to have one!).
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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#520896
sounds like your pads are worn out allowing the metal of the brake pad backing plate to graunch on the metal discs. Ouch. Big damage,..

some friction is normal; enough to feel when turning by hand with the car jacked up
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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#520915
Pads worn out and your caliper pistons have siezed on one side..............sorry!


ruckus Veteran Volks Folk

2,118 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#520929
Thanks guys.


PLease don't be sorry Craig. It might not be great news, but it's better than having no idea what's going on. At least I can try to figure out how to fix it now.

beerdoc Insano Dub Head

838 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#520977
Craig Torrens wrote:Pads worn out and your caliper pistons have siezed on one side..............sorry!


I think that was Hanks thought too?
Cheers Doc

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tassupervee That really hurts doesnt it!

1,171 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#521010
Yer I agree with the pad material seperating from the backing plate hence the clunk.
This can happen when the pads have been left sit wet for a long, really long time and the the backing plates rust underneath the friction material.

I seriouly doubt thered be much damage if the car was not braked on for too long after the clunk.

VW T1 & T3 calipers are opposed twin piston arrangements, are fixed mounted and do not float, if they are floating, they are attemptimg to fall off!
Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....

ruckus Veteran Volks Folk

2,118 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#521072
Yes Doc it looks like Uncle Hank's long-range diagnosis was correct.