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Menangler Custom Title Time!

1,991 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#522039
Put the finishing touches on this new Drag racing engine today, it is 2380cc, 86 X 94 in a VW mag case, with Compertition Eliminator heads, 12 to 1 compression and 51.5 mm Weber IDA's, the engine was built by Shimmo, heads by Dave Butler, I have just made and fitted all the tinware and "fiddly Bits"

[ Edited on 14-8-2006 by Menangler ]

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FAHRVERGNUGEN;
Description of a pleasurable sensation,
Experienced when a car and it's driver are in mutual harmony, A unique driving experience, Pleasure, Satisfaction,
A feeling experienced by Volkswagen Drivers.

speedster356 Plastic not Classic Racing

1,624 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#522047
Is that the top secret car in the background Dave....?:P
Spyder-WISD 07-09-05 11.6s @ 125 MPH

Speedster-WISD Nats 05 14.4s @ 89 MPH

Jet cruiser-Coogee 22-09-05 900 deg C @ 110,000 rpm

Weaseling out of things is what separates us from the animals....................Except the Weasel.

squizy Thinking about another dub...maybe

4,082 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#522055
LOL. Yes that looks familiar to some obscure pic in VWMA. Nice looking motor there Dave.

Euro_67 Wolfsburg Wizard

690 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#522056
How about some more pics of the car in the background please Dave

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#522058
Not soo Top Secret now !


HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!

3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#522061
👍

Good on you Dave!

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#522166
So Fabio will be racing then will you have time to test the car ??
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


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Stanley I guess the reward is in the doing of it

4,523 posts · joined Mar 2003 ·

#522180
nice....👍

Doug Sweetman Nil Bastardo Carborundum

2,128 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#522222
phwoar...... old skool kool with the BIG IDA's and magneto..... love it, and the big plus, all in a VW magnesium case too !

Any guesses on hp / torque figures ?

Gracey Wolfsburg Wizard

511 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#522227
Looks good.

Whats the deal with the weight where the pulley goes?
No cooling?

Menangler Custom Title Time!

1,991 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#522248
What car in the back ground? there's no car in the back ground!

The "weight" on the end of the crank is a Dave Stoker made equalizer pulley, It will be sent away to have a belt groove machined in it, as soon as I work out the alignment.

Not sure if we will have time to run it before Warwick, still have a lot to do.
FAHRVERGNUGEN;
Description of a pleasurable sensation,
Experienced when a car and it's driver are in mutual harmony, A unique driving experience, Pleasure, Satisfaction,
A feeling experienced by Volkswagen Drivers.

bugbrained Officially Full-On Dubber

368 posts · joined Apr 2006 ·

#522877
sweeeetttt👍

Dak-A-Tak Volksie Pete

1,381 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#524163
Very,very sweet Dave,Fabio, Tells us little more about combo guys!!!!! What carb jets combo ,to start with (190 square) Is that a 4Quart sump !what oil level will you run.!(Rods ,just on oil stick ).Great to see another dragcar on the scene. Has Fabio got any old Pics when he got the beast.(show us)

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#532560
Anything new to report?
When are the maiden runs?
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

Menangler Custom Title Time!

1,991 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#532735
Ran it on the Dyno yesterday, carbs are all over the place, too rich down low and good up top, will be running it again next saturday with some venturi changes.

Motor runs strong and makes all the right noises from 5 - 8000 rpm, just got to make it better down low.
FAHRVERGNUGEN;
Description of a pleasurable sensation,
Experienced when a car and it's driver are in mutual harmony, A unique driving experience, Pleasure, Satisfaction,
A feeling experienced by Volkswagen Drivers.

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#532853
Menangler wrote:What car in the back ground? there's no car in the back ground!
Oh Dave..... You really are a card..... Gotta love Inch Pincher II styling!
FUCH your early!

http://www.noh2o.org/

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#532898
Rules of thumb are venturi 2mm smaller than valve = 46 absolute max.
And 4 x venturi on mains...again I would use a max of 195 to start.
This will be rich down low (with same size "air") I would guess(its a guess..you must dyno with A/F meter)
In this case I would dyno till you get the main correct up to 5-6000 rpm,
and then use smaller airs to correct when the engine gets lean up high(F7s?)

Most engines I know with IDAs seem to drive nice with smaller mains and airs,
than what our American friends seem to use and recommend.

Hope this info is of some assistence.
Smaller venturies than 44 will be better but restrict those heads.

[ Edited on 10-9-2006 by dangerous ]
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#532917
Dave

Will the Tooth Fairy know how to drive it ???

looking good
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


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Menangler Custom Title Time!

1,991 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#532953
Dave (Dangerous Dave),
It has 46mm vents now, I think we will try some 44's, the air fuel is good at 5000 rpm and up, with a 155 main but way rich down low, almost undrivable. it has F7's and idles are 55's

Try again on saturday.
FAHRVERGNUGEN;
Description of a pleasurable sensation,
Experienced when a car and it's driver are in mutual harmony, A unique driving experience, Pleasure, Satisfaction,
A feeling experienced by Volkswagen Drivers.

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#532961
Huh... Thats a tri-fecta!... three Daves in a row!.... Now where's my booky... Gotta put a bet on!
FUCH your early!

http://www.noh2o.org/

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#532979
Menangler wrote:Dave (Dangerous Dave),
It has 46mm vents now, I think we will try some 44's, the air fuel is good at 5000 rpm and up, with a 155 main but way rich down low, almost undrivable. it has F7's and idles are 55's

Try again on saturday.

Man that is unusual for such a small main.
Must have a very small air jet, or a float level that is too high.

Pete and rod run about 180 and 180 in their main and airs, with 44 vents.
My pref is to run slightly smaller mains than that, but a smaller air will then be needed.
Have a talk to Henry.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

Menangler Custom Title Time!

1,991 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#533002
He is still in Orange.
FAHRVERGNUGEN;
Description of a pleasurable sensation,
Experienced when a car and it's driver are in mutual harmony, A unique driving experience, Pleasure, Satisfaction,
A feeling experienced by Volkswagen Drivers.

Dak-A-Tak Volksie Pete

1,381 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#533234
Things are looking good guys.I hope I can help,dave. What fuel was being used ,Was motor in car or out , fuel pump and presure. The big venturi helps at top-end ,so I would start with 42 or44 to get going for 1/8th mile racing.Those heads and 51carbs will flow lots in rev range latter on. The yanks like to start with 3full steps apart when it come mains, airs.(1) AIR jet- effects higher rpm , 0.15 increase in AIR jet =0.05 reduction in main fuel jets.(2) 1mm increase in Venturi dia ,you can expect to move your main jet size up by 0.05 (3)Main jet effects full rpm range - any change made to the main jets ,has 3 times the effect as similar change in the AIR corrector jets. The yanks like to start with 200airs becouse it's nice round figger Then 3full steps smaller in main jets =170mains .Dean Lowry starts with square tune up on LARGE VENTURIS in dia's.(46mm).THEN tune air jets because its a safer way .MY motor 2332 -14plus fuel ( 11to 14 in compression ) 170mains ,195airs ,65idle, 44vents .Anything below 3000 rpm LOOK at float level,main jets to small (look at plug colour) ,check pump jets are clear,idles not dripping ,timing on motor ?????? Hope we can help !

Menangler Custom Title Time!

1,991 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#533273
Thanks Pete,
I have asked the jetting question on the cal-look forum, just to get a ball park idea, the more info I get the better at this stage, we then can then try a few combo's on the dyno and see what works best.

Can't wait for Warwick. it will be a great weekend.
FAHRVERGNUGEN;
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Experienced when a car and it's driver are in mutual harmony, A unique driving experience, Pleasure, Satisfaction,
A feeling experienced by Volkswagen Drivers.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#534470
What is your jetting and venturi plan Dave ?
Oh, those valves are 48mm.
With those heads and that cam, it will most likely come on at about 5000 anyhow.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

58bbugger Casual Dubber

29 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#534674
HOT !

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#535024
So, what is the latest Dave?
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.