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butmonkeys Commited Dubber

57 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#527842
Hi can anyone tell me is there a 57 big window or are they all 58s ,how can you tell them apart as my beetle may just be a 57 not a 58 any help please.????

ColumBUS Hail To The Bus Driver!

3,601 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#527844
57's made before july (???) the oval window, whilst later 57s had the large window... im not sure if they were labelled as a 58 though... check your vin numbers and vehicled id plate

butmonkeys Commited Dubber

57 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#527884
Thanks CoumBUS the number under the back seat is 1612857 the front plate has type 1/11 and 1612857 and c1146 engine no1940195 when i bought the car in QLD it said 1957 on rego papers but when i took the car for a blue slip the mechanic told me there is no 57 big window only 58s ,but i have since been told there is 57 big windows.Can anyone help me find the year of my car please.???????

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#527885
the last few months of 57 were big windows
it wasnt till the till the mid 60s i think when they started going by the german year 1 august to 31 july

usless trivia - the last oval window was built on july 31 1957 chassis # 16000439 engine number 1937450

the mechanic just was probably just going on the fact that 57 was the last year ovals were built and it wouldnt have been till early 58 by the time big windows were crusing the streets here

-Joel

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#527908
One of My books says that the large rear window was introduced on the 1st August 1957 at chassis number 1600400
same time the throttle roller was replaced by a pedal..

Your beetle was made in early August 1957...
First month of the Larger rear window and windscreen.

chassis number 1394120-1774680 1st jan-31st dec 1957
engine number :1678210-2158321 1st jan-31st dec 1957

the vw years on the internet say large windscreen & rear window introduced in 1958.. which is incorrect.

so, Yes, You have a 1957 Beetle with the larger windscreen and rear window.


cheers

Lee
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

butmonkeys Commited Dubber

57 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#528170
Thank you 68autobug it seems the original owner was right and the mechanic was wrong.So are these more rare than the oval and does anyone whant to buy QLD number plates 58dub as there no use to me now cheers.?????

amazeer Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,029 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#528175
There was one for sale in Club VeeDub magazine last month. 29years in a shed etc. Is this the same one?

butmonkeys Commited Dubber

57 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#528268
No this one was for sale here a while ago but i kept it was also at the blast from the past in berry it is cream and burgandy some one may remember it.