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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#528545

Not really sure what they are called..
You lock them across your steering wheel...
so it cannot be driven with it on...
steering wheel lock??

I know some are $9.95 and then others up to $49-95
maybe even more expensive than that...

Anyone use them and think they will protect your VW?

I have seen a similar device used in the UK, that connect the brake pedal to the steering wheel...

I never see them being used in the country, but I have noticed them a lot in Sydney, Adelaide etc... being used.

Lee
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jo_tas Custom Title Time!

1,547 posts · joined Aug 2004 ·

#528553
My car is parked out on the street at night, so i use one.. Its an old one that's been in the family for a while.. but its quite substantial and solid.. i think the brand is Aunger? or something...
I remember when my older sister first got it and put it in her bug.. wanted to see if it really did anything so she put it on and tried to drive.. got to the end of the street, but couldn't turn the corner!
I think anything that would slow down a potential car stealer helps!

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#528559
Yes,
I've heard that if a thief looks into a car and sees an anti theft device, they may keep looking...
for an easier target...

but then look how so many WRX Subarus are stolen
and they would have immobilisers and steering locks &
latest technology...??

It may depend on how much the thief knows about the car He's going to steal...

I have a blue revolving roof light from a police car..
I wonder if that would be a deterent...

or maybe draw the thieves to My beetle... :o

Lee

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kombikim disfunctionally capable

1,521 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#528566
mostly these are useless, especially depend on how you fit them & the design of the steering wheel
steering wheels are designed to bend rather than destroy your body they also bend so that the antitheft device can be removed,
other cheapies are made with cheap cast metal which does not take much of a bash to snap
or if you are so inclined it only takes a short time with a hacksaw to remve an inch of the steering wheel rim
& if you dont fit :"back to front" with where you put the key in facing the dash rather than driver, the tumbler can be easily removed with small slide hammer,
Please, I need drivers side window regulator (winder mechanism) for my '54

bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#528571
my Granddad just takes out the dizzy rotor every time he wants to stop thieves (cause hes got a nice 60s fairlane), along with the steering wheel lock... neva had a problem
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jo_tas Custom Title Time!

1,547 posts · joined Aug 2004 ·

#528572
It all depends how desirable your car is..

A thief is going to make more of an effort to steal a WRX than say, an early 70's type 3.

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#528573
thats a good one Chris...

something to remember...

I've seen that done in old movies many times...
to stop a car being driven...

and not many people carry a spare rotor button...

Lee
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

blutopless2 DAMSLO

2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#528577
68AutoBug wrote:but then look how so many WRX Subarus are stolen
and they would have immobilisers and steering locks &
latest technology...??
yes but these are generally stolen and never seen again.
WRX's became such a hot spare parts target, and that is why they now have datadot security in the paintwork and an upgraded immobiliser with keypad. sure its not foolproof as you can always respray and the immobiliser can be bypassed, but an extra hassle.
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last celtic warrior Wolfsburg Wizard

402 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#528583
I my first car I installed some interlaced switches inside the headlight recess, and they had to be in the right order or the horn sounded when you openned the door or tried the ignition.

Once the start contacts failed in the ignition switch, I removed the hidden switches and just put a starter button in the dash grouped with some other switches of the same type. When you tried to start it, everything lit up normally until you went to "start", at which time everything went off, until you released the key again. Classic "flat bettery" symptoms, which makes a thief move onto another car very quickly. They don't want to be trying to push start a car they're steeling.

When I was living in Brissie and bought a Volvo sedan in VGC, I knew it would be a target for thieves as they are worth good money stripped down as parts. First thing I did was spend 3 days pulling the dash out enough to get at the deepest part of the wiring loom and put a slit in it. I then wired a tiny circuit board with a latching relay into it and closed it up with original looking heat shrink. I jumpered into pre-existing wires that were reserved for options and on the other side of the dash, in one of the trim pieces, I inserted a magnetic reed switch which I wired through the mounting plates so that if you took it off, you couldn't see that there was anything tricky about it. When you set it, it disabled the fuel pump, starter wire and shorted the dizzy. It was impossible to find and even an auto lecky would have trouble sorting it out and fixing it (if he had a spare week).

If the anti theft device is not a standard alarm from a shop, thieves tend to leave it well enough alone. The thing that alerted people to my Volvo having something strange installed (being a Volvo probably already gave that impression) was that the lock button on the driver's door had a flashing LED in the top of it. That was so obscure and puzzling to even most electronics people that everyone concluded it wasn't worth trying to figure out what else might be in there.

jo_tas Custom Title Time!

1,547 posts · joined Aug 2004 ·

#528587
Way to go, Q!
I'll have mine shaken.. not stirred! :P

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#528625
heh yea the old hidden reed switch works well

cept when u loose ur magnet
i got some funny looks once at a shopping center car park yelling and swearing ripping out one of my speakers so i could get my car to start LOL

-Joel

Stanley I guess the reward is in the doing of it

4,523 posts · joined Mar 2003 ·

#528682
I used one that locked from my steering wheel to the brake pedal
Didn't stop thieves from stealing my volkswagen.

IMO the best way is to pull your rotor button out....haven't lost one since

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#528724
last celtic warrior wrote:I my first car I installed some interlaced switches inside the headlight recess, and they had to be in the right order or the horn sounded when you openned the door or tried the ignition.
Once the start contacts failed in the ignition switch, I removed the hidden switches and just put a starter button in the dash grouped with some other switches of the same type. When you tried to start it, everything lit up normally until you went to "start", at which time everything went off, until you released the key again. Classic "flat bettery" symptoms, which makes a thief move onto another car very quickly. They don't want to be trying to push start a car they're steeling.

When I was living in Brissie and bought a Volvo sedan in VGC, I knew it would be a target for thieves as they are worth good money stripped down as parts. First thing I did was spend 3 days pulling the dash out enough to get at the deepest part of the wiring loom and put a slit in it. I then wired a tiny circuit board with a latching relay into it and closed it up with original looking heat shrink. I jumpered into pre-existing wires that were reserved for options and on the other side of the dash, in one of the trim pieces, I inserted a magnetic reed switch which I wired through the mounting plates so that if you took it off, you couldn't see that there was anything tricky about it. When you set it, it disabled the fuel pump, starter wire and shorted the dizzy. It was impossible to find and even an auto lecky would have trouble sorting it out and fixing it (if he had a spare week).

If the anti theft device is not a standard alarm from a shop, thieves tend to leave it well enough alone. The thing that alerted people to my Volvo having something strange installed (being a Volvo probably already gave that impression) was that the lock button on the driver's door had a flashing LED in the top of it. That was so obscure and puzzling to even most electronics people that everyone concluded it wasn't worth trying to figure out what else might be in there.
Wow,
What ideas....
I probably won't sleep tonight, thinking which idea I'll try first....
but I've just thought of a couple I can already do as I have extra switches in My beetle already...
I won't go into details as I want it to be a secret...:P:P

I did see a beetle once with an extra fresh air vent knob in between the real two knobs....
I thought it was strange....
but I'll never know...
I really like the flashing LED in the door lock knob...
a bit difficult with the VW knob as its much smaller than the Volvo knobs i have collected...

I did have an alarm [key switch] on most of My other cars and VWs, but i had a very bright flashing Blue light in My L300 dash... never seen one of those lights again...
but with the very bright LEDs available now...
I've been meaning to put one of those in...
with My electric fuel pump under the fuel tank, & its usually switched off... I've only forgotten to turn it off once and got about 100 metres before the fuel ran out..

Great stuff guys... I love it all.....

Lee

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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#528726
Hi Stanley,

Ok on the steering wheel to brake pedal device
not stopping Your VW being stolen..

I'll cross those and steering wheel devices off My list....

Lee

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kombikim disfunctionally capable

1,521 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#528734
Funniest antitheft device I ever saw was when I was a courier years ago, had to start the vehicle something like 90 times a day & starter motors did not last forever like that, not good for engine either, we had to lots of quick drops & pickups
this guy who used to be an auto electrician wired up everything so that he could leave his van running, very simple, he had a hidden switch, press it & if someone put their foot on the clutch - the engine cut out, & horn & siren & headlights & flashers all started going off - sad thing is he had it like that for a few years & nobody ever tried to steal it, sitting there unlocked with the engine running
Please, I need drivers side window regulator (winder mechanism) for my '54

crewcabconnection Being Sid James

1,922 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#528776
I have a mate who owns www.klampit.com - getcha a discount if you want a clamp. I sleep well with a chastity belt on my bus...and yes they cost more than the Chinese ones at SuperCheap ... theres a reason for that...anyway, he'd sell em to ya with FREE shipping, save you the price of the courier. Give him a call, his names Paul, tell him Deano sent ya....you can collect from his factory, he's next to the TRAKKA factory, as yes he drives a VW.
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#528822
Hi

I work for a large motoring organisation, Ive been to many people who have removed the rotor or coil lead etc and broken them. These units will not stand up to constant removing and replacing by clumsy people.

Im often called upon to break steering wheel locking devices, the really hard ones I have to 1st remove the steering wheel, then I break them with the use of a long bar and my tow bar, the junky ones I break in place.

The steering wheel lock will slow thiefs down, but if they want it they will get it.

Steve

last celtic warrior Wolfsburg Wizard

402 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#528837
Years ago, a cousin of mine helped a friend design and install a nasty system in his car. It was remote, with deleted door locks and stuff. There was a 130dB siren inside the headrest, 30,000 odd volts going through thin wires woven around the seat edges and when the doors locked, there was nothing you could do to open them again from the inside, unless you had the remote. I don't think there was a single legal feature... LOL

The trouble was, when he went home after finishing it all, he went inside to get his parents to come out and have a look (and made time for a cuppa). On exiting the house his parents asked why he didn't park in the empty driveway which is where he always parked.

He was only popping inside to get his parents so he didn't set the alarm. The Police found what was left of the car a few days later. It was minus most of it's unboltable parts, including the alarm components...

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#528911
Good and bad stories.....

Looks like if You have an alarm or other system
best to have it fitted ASAP
and always use it.....

Talk about bad luck

Lee
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

shaihulud Custom Title Time!

1,448 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#529177
I carry a steering wheel lock called The Club. It's big and red and heavy. It is the only way that you can legally carry an offensive weapon in a car as long as you have the key for it. I never put it on the wheel of my car.

I used to have a strong motorbike lock up cable that was bolted to the floor under a seat support bolt and which I twisted arround the steering wheel and padlocked on. No-one ever tried to steel the buggy.


A couple of years ago I was being harrassed in traffic in the buggy by a twit in a big 4WD. At a set of traffic lights I stood on the seat of the buggy and shouted at him, while waving The Club at him that he would get a good dose of road rage if he didn't stop. He backed off. I look upon it as cheap insurance.

squizy Thinking about another dub...maybe

4,082 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#529222
I had a mate who had a 73 Kingswood. He had a steering wheel lock, and one night in Parramatta when he went out, he parked the car and put the steering wheel lock on but didn't lock it, just slipped it on.

It was piss funny when he came back to the space where his car used to be to find the steering wheel lock neatly placed on the ground in the middle of the parking space. It was not so funny finding his burnt out wreck a few hours later.

sinecure Want another... :(

1,031 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#529548
I've mentioned this before: I used to carry a small, woven cane lidded basket and a copy of Reptile magazine (with a picture of a python in jaws open attack pose on the cover) in the car. Left the mag on the front passenger seat and the basket on the front floor or back seat.

Never touched in 6 years of working in Southport/Surfers Paradise.
A POSSE AD ESSE.

I live in my own little world, but it's okay, they know me here.

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#529777
sinecure wrote:I've mentioned this before: I used to carry a small, woven cane lidded basket and a copy of Reptile magazine (with a picture of a python in jaws open attack pose on the cover) in the car. Left the mag on the front passenger seat and the basket on the front floor or back seat.

Never touched in 6 years of working in Southport/Surfers Paradise.

Luckily, all the thieves who looked inside Your car could read ...:P:P:P

there are some about now who can't....:P:P:P

OK on the steering wheel locking braces..
I've read where the CLUB was the Best....

and I think I read where they actually paid Your insurance
or something if the car was stolen....
but naturally You would have to have witnesses saying You did use the Club and it was locked... etc..

I have a brother in Law who has used one for years on His old bomb He drove to the train station in....
It may have been worth more than His car :P:P:P

OK, on electrical bits being broken if used continually to stop people stealing their car...

What if they have a Tilt tray truck??

what will stop them then??

YIKES -- Never thought of that...

Take the wheels off....??

Lee



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