sand seal

newoldmanx Wolfsburg Wizard

468 posts · joined Aug 2006 · 3 Sep 2006, 9:13 pm

#529913

what are they and do i need one i have heard /read of off roaders using "sand seals" i intend to do alot of offroading and after investing alot of $$$ in a vw motor what can i do to try and minimize the unwanted crap from getting into the engine

its just a car for f*%k sake

tobys mate Commited Dubber

71 posts · joined Apr 2006 · 4 Sep 2006, 7:52 pm

#530450

reading up on these sorta things mate a sand seal is a seal that goes behing the harmonic balance or crankshaft pully to stop shit from getting in there u could also thr ducting your air intake into the vehicle so it sucks clean air which is what i intend to do.........

70BAJA Casual Dubber

28 posts · joined Jul 2006 · 4 Sep 2006, 8:12 pm

#530466

tobys mate wrote:u could also thr ducting your air intake into the vehicle so it sucks clean air which is what i intend to do.........

i think you will find (in queensland) you cannot have an air cleaner inside the cabin. i'm guessing the reason is for backfires, fumes etc

after speaking to a vw motor specialist the sand seal is not really required as the vw engine has a centrifugal type seal (crank spins a little coil spins and keeps unwanted items out) BUT this would not work if you stalded it in a bog hole

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 4 Sep 2006, 8:23 pm

#530479

There is an oil slinger on the crankshaft behind the crankshaft pulley..
Its like a large flat washer only its slightly concave,
and throws the oil back into the engine...

I have seen on VW accessory websites in the USA that sell a seal that is glued to the special crankshaft pulley..

so You don't have to have the engine case machined to accept a so called sand seal...

the pulleys and seal came as a set, and were fairly expensive...

The VW engine was designed to breathe out crankcase vapours fumes out past the oil slinger...

as some one pointed out, if You were in deep water etc it may be a problem, but the only problem I've heard of is
a slight oil leak , if You park with the front of the car up a very steep incline...

Maybe some of the Baja and Buggy people can tell You what they do with the crankshaft pulley-
if anything...

cheers

Lee

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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 4 Sep 2006, 8:54 pm

#530504

Go the sand seal:thumb........its about $65 including the pulley, which you need to use with the seal. Type 4 motors use this type of seal design as standard.

The seal is easy to fit as it just pushes into the front of the case.

If the vehicle is going to be near sand, well I would be fitting one 😎

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 4 Sep 2006, 9:09 pm

#530520

Picture of the one I have on my 1916.

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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 4 Sep 2006, 9:16 pm

#530531

and the pulley that came with it. Don't really like all the holes, hopefully it won't crack between them!

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newoldmanx Wolfsburg Wizard

468 posts · joined Aug 2006 · 4 Sep 2006, 11:23 pm

#530633

thanks craig could you tell me i could get one of those mate

its just a car for f*%k sake