who has dropped spindles? (Need Help)

empi Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,131 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 3 Oct 2006, 10:00 pm

#540687

Hi

I have fitted some dropped spindles to the Kg i am running Continental 145s and Porsche 2.0 alloys , the problem is the lower trailing arm and ball joint fouls on the inner lip of the wheel , what have i done wrong has anyone had this problem?

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7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 3 Oct 2006, 10:07 pm

#540693

What are the size of the rims? Pictures?

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5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 3 Oct 2006, 10:19 pm

#540701

What have you done wrong? That's obvious isn't it?!

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empi Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,131 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 3 Oct 2006, 11:05 pm

#540718

Wel i dunno ? i am assuming the only answer is wheel spacers but i really dont wannt use them .

1. lower ball joint and rim .

2. diffrence in height.

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malcolm Insano Dub Head

812 posts · joined Nov 2004 · 3 Oct 2006, 11:15 pm

#540727

the only way to fix it is wheel spacers ,different offset rim or a larger diameter rim.
instead of the axle being center of the trailing arms you have moved it up making the lower control arm lower closer to the rim of the wheel.someoneelse might be able to explain it better.

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16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 4 Oct 2006, 7:16 am

#540777

The wheel rim is the problem its the off set

And the mags so you can not vary this

You will have to find an alternative wheel or use spacers on the wheel hub

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ruckus Veteran Volks Folk

2,118 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 4 Oct 2006, 8:20 am

#540788

Adam the Brazillian balljoints I had on one side caused a similar problem. I've now got about 5mm clearance with German bjs, that's assuming the repro and original 2.0s have the same internal diameter.

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5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 4 Oct 2006, 8:57 am

#540804

VWCOOL wrote:What have you done wrong? That's obvious isn't it?!

well, it is quite obvious. You have done nothing 'wrong' as such, but you can't run that offset/diameter wheel with lowered spindles. It's as simple as that...

You will instead have to cut and turn the beam to lower instead of drop spindles, and/or use different offset/larger wheel... I had a similar problem with a SuperBeetle years ago with lower balljoint clearance; fixed with steelies with less backspace/offset

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1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 · 4 Oct 2006, 9:03 am

#540807

Regarding what ruckus said, also check the fit of the tapers on the balljoint/spindle. Less spacer between the spindle and trailing arm gives you more rim clearance.

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empi Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,131 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 4 Oct 2006, 1:05 pm

#540871

I think i may of pulled a few too many leafs out of my beam.

I had a look at Elmos beam and spindles as he has the same wheels etc as I and there wasnt that much clearence (did have a gap).

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BUGBOY Moderator Chief Toy Dude / Head Cruiser

2,147 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 4 Oct 2006, 2:29 pm

#540889

You could narrow the beam and then fit spacers, but looks like you have a combo thats not working to well.
I'd look at some different bran ball joints and see if you can gain some clearance first.

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1,080 posts · joined Nov 2005 · 4 Oct 2006, 7:30 pm

#540969

There are clearanced ball joints available to solve the problem, but for the life of me I cant remember who it was that sold the. Someone in the US. Might have been KCW i think.

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5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 4 Oct 2006, 10:06 pm

#541069

The spindles must be different - does one have a 2, while the other has a 2.5-inch drop?

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empi Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,131 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 4 Oct 2006, 10:37 pm

#541083

there is only 1 spindle on in that pic

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8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 5 Oct 2006, 10:21 pm

#541498

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