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57 To 60 Beetles worth as mych as Ovals? Have yyour say.

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Rural Baja #tassievwpickers

1,075 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·

#541791
G'day,
Ocasionally i like to start up something that will get your minds rolling, i'm saying that 57-60 semaphore Beetles should be worth as much, if not more than Oval Windows.
in saying this, i know that a oval is older and much more sought after for collecters but a 57 to 60 semaphore beetle were produced for a shorter amount of years, has semaphores when most beetles produced in this era didn't have them. if anything we should be also trying to have a go at saving these "rare" beasts. they are individual to Australia and to only a few other countries in the world.

Now that i have that off the top of my head i shall say another thing.

Recently i had a chance of a 58 beetle for $50. It was rusty, had no front beam, missing the superstructure of the motor and it had been siting for 20 plus years under a tree. (pics will follow.) the car was previously looked after by the looks of it before a bunch of hoons picked it up and stratred to wreck it. (Now has since been crushed.)

Should i or shouldn't i of felt guilty about letting it go to the crushers?

Have your say.

Cheers Will

ps. I did greb a few parts, tailights, steeringwheel etc.

[ Edited on 6-10-2006 by 1963 Empi Radar ]

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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#541803
You should feel guilty............................and Vw's are NOT a pile of junk as per your sig line:puke


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3,436 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#541807
they are probably rarer but theyre prices dont reflect that they are worth more than ovals the vw buying public. i think theyre cool but would always prfer the oval just coz it looks older and different.
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squizy Thinking about another dub...maybe

4,082 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#541816
I'd like to agree with you because I have a '59, but I won't. I will always covet an Oval over my big window semaphore any day.....even though I love my car. Whilst there is a rarity factor, an Oval will always be the pinacle.

reub VWRX is gone...

2,054 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#541825
I scored my sweet 58 pretty cheap (shame the semaphores were removed and the pillar welded in....

Am lucky enough to have a 56 under the house for the future project.

A 56 will always be worth more in my book...



Reub

jo_tas Custom Title Time!

1,547 posts · joined Aug 2004 ·

#541828
To me i think its the shape of the oval window which is so cool.. oval window bugs look so much older than a square window..
Plus the oval window really matches the shape of a bug.
Then there's split window bugs which are even cooler! :P

LUFTMEISTER Veteran Volks Folk

2,041 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·

#541853
The ovals are scarcer and the rear window shape suits the body. But for everyday driving and livability the larger rear windows are much easier to live with. I prefer the 60/61/62 models myself.
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DUB54V Seriously Crusin Dubber

126 posts · joined Sep 2005 ·

#541880
GO THA OVALS!
i luv em!😊

Robo Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,491 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#541892
I loved my 65 Beetle just as much as I love my Oval. Every day I wish I still had it and I regret selling it. In my experiance there is very little difference in the sale price of any 56-59 semaphore Beetles in similar condition anyway, its only the 53-55 heart tailight models that are the sought after big money Ovals.
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whatnow Custom Title Time!

1,000 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#542055
in my opinion ovals will always be worth more than semaphore big windows. simply because they look better inside and out, plus they look older.
i used to consider semaphore big windows as nothing more than oval parts doners (as they were cheap and i drove an oval), but now if i came across one in the right condition for the right price i'd definately keep it for what it is.
because of the better vision big windows make far more practical drivers but still have the cool stuff (semaphores, 36hp's, early bumpers and tail lights, etc). still they don't have the styling of an oval.

empi Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,131 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#542111
This is my 58, 58s have quite a large desireability rating as they are the first of the big window bugs and Pininfarina design.

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pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#542219
Yes ovals are overated, but no, i don't think big windows are worth more. I think most people secretly want their own oval. Of interest, you might like to know there are more ovals per capita in Oz than in the US.
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1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#542258
Love ovals lots but the early big windows are better for me to drive as i have more visibilty, but saying that i would love to restore an oval. I think all early beetles are worth the money.
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Rural Baja #tassievwpickers

1,075 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·

#542280
Craig Torrens wrote:You should feel guilty............................and Vw's are NOT a pile of junk as per your sig line:puke
well looking back on it, i didn't have the room and basicly it was prettu rottrn. (smashed windows rust holes in roof and bonnet only. And my sig, well they are a pile of junk when something goes wrong!!!!!:P:thumb

Grey 57 Old Grey Cruiser

2,937 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#542349
I think that the 58/59's were a great model and the Aussie 60 with semaphores would be an Aussie only model I think???

But for mine the 57 Big Window Beetles from Aug 57 to Dec 58 are definatly worth saving. 5 months only for this model.👍

volma1 0428212510

529 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#542350
I have a 57 oval, is that worth less than a 57 big window or more than a 56 oval? Just kidding but wirth a thought, volma1 PS these are my ovals

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They are still there, just have faith you'll find one.

volma1 0428212510

529 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#542351
and these incl a 54(the beige one).volma1

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They are still there, just have faith you'll find one.

volma1 0428212510

529 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#542352
and this 56.volma1

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They are still there, just have faith you'll find one.

volma1 0428212510

529 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#542355
Hi Will, how did you go with the project that you mentioned to me. Hoping it went well and you did ok.
Cheers, Greg
They are still there, just have faith you'll find one.

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#542362
Glad I have both :P


Rural Baja #tassievwpickers

1,075 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·

#542489
Hey Greg. Sent a message and he said it's not for sale. But i will ring him and try to wear him down a bit.
Will try to ring this weekend. Know of a few other big window project cars so i'll also
have a crack at them.
Cheers Will

CAFFINEPUSHERMAN bandito di culo

1,609 posts · joined May 2005 ·

#542520
TYP-114 wrote:I like both, but I have a soft spot for the 57-59 model, cause I have one.
IMO the Ovals fetch more money is because of the older look with the small windows etc. They are a classic look.

My '59


thats a fantastic roof rack love your horns too:thumb
[ Edited on 8-10-2006 by TYP-114 ]
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221 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#542526
Grey 57 wrote:I think that the 58/59's were a great model and the Aussie 60 with semaphores would be an Aussie only model I think???

But for mine the 57 Big Window Beetles from Aug 57 to Dec 58 are definatly worth saving. 5 months only for this model.👍
I am saving one of these!!! 5 months can make it tough to find parts tho!!
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volma1 0428212510

529 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#542656
That is one sweet 59, love it. volma1
They are still there, just have faith you'll find one.

volma1 0428212510

529 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#542660
Ich fahre ein Kdf ein Tag which year oval do you have. volma1
They are still there, just have faith you'll find one.

whatnow Custom Title Time!

1,000 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#542831
typ 114 that is the wildest roof rack i've ever seen on a bug.... love it.