Hertz www.melburgluft.com
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A couple of brief pics. You will get the idea.
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For those who want to notch their springplates.
VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome
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i'd be real, real careful about creating a stress riser at the base of the notch... more radius and a polished edge would be sensible
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3,436 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
who would want to notch their spring plates???
yeh a rounded edge would be a better idea
yeh a rounded edge would be a better idea
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aussiebaja Insano Dub Head
738 posts · joined Jun 2006 ·
that would need to be strengthened or it would probably bend in the v cut under real stress
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Hertz www.melburgluft.com
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How do you strengthen spring steel, without weakening it? Round edge would prob help, but unless your running big power then this will give no probs, but whatever.
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aussiebaja Insano Dub Head
738 posts · joined Jun 2006 ·
fair enough ,just thought it would create a weak spot at the "v" being a lot smaller than the rest ,thought it might twist or gradually stretch at the bottom,,it was just a thought but whatever
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Hertz www.melburgluft.com
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You are prob right to an extent, but the axles stop any sideways travel, and the up/down travel is minor in a slammed bug anyway. As i said, if you are running a big engine it could twist a bit, but thas the price you pay I guess. I know guys who run with this cut without any probs (my self included). I have had a few guys ask me for these measurements lately, so I thought I would share.
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aussiebaja Insano Dub Head
738 posts · joined Jun 2006 ·
thats cool 👍👍
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xornge666x Wolfsburg Wizard
460 posts · joined Sep 2006 ·
I have always rounded them slightly when Ive done them, and yet to see one break. Many cars are running notched plates cut way further than these with no probs!!
Much improved ride too with that little extra clearance...
Much improved ride too with that little extra clearance...
mattie182 Wolfsburg Wizard
466 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
could you go the other way, for a raised car??
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3,389 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·
YES!! but not too much......CV's are your friends...:kissmattie182 wrote:could you go the other way, for a raised car??
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xornge666x Wolfsburg Wizard
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raised car???? never heard of doin that!
koolkarmakombi enkarmarising
2,078 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·
This is NOT bagging you hertz,
Is this legal? I am just wondering. Would it need engineering?
I reckon if it was finished off with radius etc you wouldnt see it.
This would give more suspension travel for those low ones that are not on the stops?
Is this legal? I am just wondering. Would it need engineering?
I reckon if it was finished off with radius etc you wouldnt see it.
This would give more suspension travel for those low ones that are not on the stops?
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pyr0 flame-on
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i run this set up but with rounded corners and 10.5 on toop instead of 10 1/4.
plus its your spring plates that fould before the bump stops.....well mine did cause i chopper 2 inches off the stops 😉
plus its your spring plates that fould before the bump stops.....well mine did cause i chopper 2 inches off the stops 😉
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Hertz www.melburgluft.com
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Legal, let me think. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm dont understand what you mean. LoL.
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Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer
3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
That would be a no. Like cut springs on a regular car.Hertz wrote:Legal, let me think. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm dont understand what you mean. LoL.
It means that you should NOT bother paying for insurance on your car, because your policy is void if the car isn't legal.
On raised cars it's better to modify the limit stop than modify the springplate itself.
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xornge666x Wolfsburg Wizard
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If you raise your car by a certain amount - not road worthy - no insurance
If you have adjusters or modified front beam, or adjustable spring plates - not rodworthy - no insurance
If you dont have 100mm ground clearance at curb weight (vic) - not roadworthy - no insurance
If you have a non padded steering wheel in a car that came with a padded one - not roadworthy - no insurance
If you increase hp in the engine by 10% without engineering - not road worthy - no insurance
the list goes on...
If you want to get picky they can deny covering you for all sorts of things. I dont know of too many assessors that would know what a spring plate looked like originally.
If you look real careful on most of our modified vw's, there will be something that doesnt comply, unless you have gone through an engineer to approve all the mods, and left the car that way.
If you have adjusters or modified front beam, or adjustable spring plates - not rodworthy - no insurance
If you dont have 100mm ground clearance at curb weight (vic) - not roadworthy - no insurance
If you have a non padded steering wheel in a car that came with a padded one - not roadworthy - no insurance
If you increase hp in the engine by 10% without engineering - not road worthy - no insurance
the list goes on...
If you want to get picky they can deny covering you for all sorts of things. I dont know of too many assessors that would know what a spring plate looked like originally.
If you look real careful on most of our modified vw's, there will be something that doesnt comply, unless you have gone through an engineer to approve all the mods, and left the car that way.
Hertz www.melburgluft.com
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How true. And besides, you can always raise your suspension BEFORE an insurance assesor looks at your car. They dont turn up un anounced, so it is possible to sneak things through. Ive done it for customers at work many a time.xornge666x wrote:If you raise your car by a certain amount - not road worthy - no insurance
If you have adjusters or modified front beam, or adjustable spring plates - not rodworthy - no insurance
If you dont have 100mm ground clearance at curb weight (vic) - not roadworthy - no insurance
If you have a non padded steering wheel in a car that came with a padded one - not roadworthy - no insurance
If you increase hp in the engine by 10% without engineering - not road worthy - no insurance
the list goes on...
If you want to get picky they can deny covering you for all sorts of things. I dont know of too many assessors that would know what a spring plate looked like originally.
If you look real careful on most of our modified vw's, there will be something that doesnt comply, unless you have gone through an engineer to approve all the mods, and left the car that way.
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Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer
3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
whether the insurance company picks it the problems or not depends on how much it is insured for, how bad the accident was, and how obvious the illegal mods are.
Shannons is a good insurance company and won't get very picky.
If the car isn't worth much, they will pay without looking into it too much.
If you kill someone in your accident, they will look a lot harder.
If the mod is a heavily notched spring plate it's easy to pick the mod if they have half a clue.
If the spring plate breaks where it was notched, and as a result you lost control and killed someone, then look out. Getting you insurance money should be the least of your worries.
10% power increase, no-one will notice. Although I had my 1916 blue plated. I also have a blue plate to cover brakes, gearbox, engine, seats and seat belts. I run a stock height type 181 front end to get my ground clearance. Because I have made every effort to keep the car 100% legal, I'm pretty safe.
I just wanted the people who weren't sure of the implications, to have some idea.
Shannons is a good insurance company and won't get very picky.
If the car isn't worth much, they will pay without looking into it too much.
If you kill someone in your accident, they will look a lot harder.
If the mod is a heavily notched spring plate it's easy to pick the mod if they have half a clue.
If the spring plate breaks where it was notched, and as a result you lost control and killed someone, then look out. Getting you insurance money should be the least of your worries.
10% power increase, no-one will notice. Although I had my 1916 blue plated. I also have a blue plate to cover brakes, gearbox, engine, seats and seat belts. I run a stock height type 181 front end to get my ground clearance. Because I have made every effort to keep the car 100% legal, I'm pretty safe.
I just wanted the people who weren't sure of the implications, to have some idea.
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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome
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Bit hard to do it from a hospital bed...Hertz wrote:How true. And besides, you can always raise your suspension BEFORE an insurance assesor looks at your car. They dont turn up un anounced, so it is possible to sneak things through. Ive done it for customers at work many a time.xornge666x wrote:If you raise your car by a certain amount - not road worthy - no insurance
If you have adjusters or modified front beam, or adjustable spring plates - not rodworthy - no insurance
If you dont have 100mm ground clearance at curb weight (vic) - not roadworthy - no insurance
If you have a non padded steering wheel in a car that came with a padded one - not roadworthy - no insurance
If you increase hp in the engine by 10% without engineering - not road worthy - no insurance
the list goes on...
If you want to get picky they can deny covering you for all sorts of things. I dont know of too many assessors that would know what a spring plate looked like originally.
If you look real careful on most of our modified vw's, there will be something that doesnt comply, unless you have gone through an engineer to approve all the mods, and left the car that way.
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dak002 Seriously Crusin Dubber
181 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·
"that's what freinds are for"VWCOOL wrote:Bit hard to do it from a hospital bed...Hertz wrote:How true. And besides, you can always raise your suspension BEFORE an insurance assesor looks at your car. They dont turn up un anounced, so it is possible to sneak things through. Ive done it for customers at work many a time.xornge666x wrote:If you raise your car by a certain amount - not road worthy - no insurance
If you have adjusters or modified front beam, or adjustable spring plates - not rodworthy - no insurance
If you dont have 100mm ground clearance at curb weight (vic) - not roadworthy - no insurance
If you have a non padded steering wheel in a car that came with a padded one - not roadworthy - no insurance
If you increase hp in the engine by 10% without engineering - not road worthy - no insurance
the list goes on...
If you want to get picky they can deny covering you for all sorts of things. I dont know of too many assessors that would know what a spring plate looked like originally.
If you look real careful on most of our modified vw's, there will be something that doesnt comply, unless you have gone through an engineer to approve all the mods, and left the car that way.
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hey it was cool in the 80s 🤪xornge666x wrote:If we all lived worrying about this we would be driving standard cars with the only modification being a monza exhaust and a whale tail.
jason1957 Seriously Crusin Dubber
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Can this be done on any swingaxle?
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pyr0 flame-on
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what car are you aiming to do it on ?
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I can see no problems with a notched spring plate on a vehicle that will be driven on the roads only. I would not have a "V" in the notch, but a sinusoidal curve to reduce the possibility of a stress concentration in the "V".