Oil pump with filter fitting ? and how good are they?

BASHOdi Wolfsburg Wizard

441 posts · joined Nov 2006 · 19 Jan 2007, 9:45 am

#565502

I'm just about to fit an oil pump with filter thingo and everything is fine until I get to the bit "insert oil pump pilot instead of oil pump drive shaft into the pump body" it then continues with rotating the cam etc--I'm stuck on the oil pump pilot bit , special 4 million dollar tool ?? if anyone could give me a pointer on this it would be much appreciated,
Cheers , Al .
Added :- How good are they any pitfalls with the little suckers ?????

[ Edited on 19-1-2007 by BASHOdi ]

xornge666x Wolfsburg Wizard

460 posts · joined Sep 2006 · 19 Jan 2007, 12:54 pm

#565581

as long as you have the right pump for the cam, either dished or flat, then its a matter of lining up the slot in the cam with the flat of the oil pump drive and slotting it in.
No special tools needed.
If its not quite lined up you just need to rotate the cam a little and it should push in.
Beware of some of the outer gaskets that come with those, they are real thick and can cause pressure loss. A thin coating of loctite flange sealant is better...

BASHOdi Wolfsburg Wizard

441 posts · joined Nov 2006 · 20 Jan 2007, 7:00 am

#565724

Thanks for the heads up there , are there any difficultys in extracting the old pump from the caseing ---or anything else that jumps out and bites , it seems too simple , do thay actualy work properly ?--or is it just my normal abnormal paranoia getting the better of me.
Cheers , Al .

xornge666x wrote:as long as you have the right pump for the cam, either dished or flat, then its a matter of lining up the slot in the cam with the flat of the oil pump drive and slotting it in.
No special tools needed.
If its not quite lined up you just need to rotate the cam a little and it should push in.
Beware of some of the outer gaskets that come with those, they are real thick and can cause pressure loss. A thin coating of loctite flange sealant is better...

Matt Ryan Fahrvergnugen

890 posts · joined Jan 2006 · 20 Jan 2007, 7:32 am

#565728

If you have trouble getting the old pump out, there is a Guy who sells a tool for it via Ebay. He doesn't have one listed at the moment. But I'm sure if you e-mail him through his sellers store he should be able to sort one out for you.

http://stores.ebay.com.au/yasdnil01

Ps. I don't know him or have any connection.

Matt.

http://portvwforum.freeforums.org

xornge666x Wolfsburg Wizard

460 posts · joined Sep 2006 · 20 Jan 2007, 8:27 am

#565733

back the case bolts off around the pump, and lever it out. The edges of the pump can break if its not loose enough around it, and go slow. Special tool can help but is not necessary. Ive never used one.
Careful not to damage the case too.
Im not sure what you are asking about 'actually working'. The pumps are good, the relief ones are best as I said before. A full flow system is best, but these work fine and are a whole lot better than the factory filter system.

lohoon Wolfsburg Wizard

466 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 20 Jan 2007, 2:26 pm

#565782

I have installed these a coupla times and if you take the front plate off the oil pump you can turn the pump drive until its in the right position.Grab a torch and check out the slot in your cam and what way its facing.The drive looks like a flat screwdriver.Some camshafts have rounded corners in the drive flange.If yours is one of these you can grind the square edges round.I had to do this.I think they are an exellent addition as any extra oil filtration adds to engine longevity.
Dont forget to change the filter when you change your oil!
You can also get big or small filters to suit these.I started using z9 filters but these were a tight fit near extractors so i went to a z63.
Oh you have to either use long bolts or put longer studs in the case.

koolkarmakombi enkarmarising

2,078 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 20 Jan 2007, 8:43 pm

#565865

Urban myth has said that these dont flow as highly as a tapped in full flow, I have done both and not noticed the difference. Wiser minds may be able to comment further. I would clean up all the casting dags etc.

post how you go.

kkk

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BASHOdi Wolfsburg Wizard

441 posts · joined Nov 2006 · 20 Jan 2007, 11:14 pm

#565913

Thanks very much guys, I think thats abouts me sorted on this one thanks also for the tip about the longer bolts , just to clarify "actualy work properly" bit my previous two cars have been a Madza Rx7 and a WRX and as anyone who has owned iether--or both-- of these will probably also attest the aftermarket for these cars is chockas with go faster/better bits which do from absolutely nothing to absolutely harmfull and after a couple of years of absolute bullshit from suppliers I have become more than a tad cautious/cynical,
Thanks again all,
Cheers , Al .

BASHOdi Wolfsburg Wizard

441 posts · joined Nov 2006 · 30 Jan 2007, 11:25 am

#568329

weeell after all the enquirys I found much to my shame that my newby already has an external filter fitted😊
and has a mann w7195 filter I know absolutely nothing about these filters apart from the fact that it has only 4 flow holes in it the only other thing about VW external filters I know is that a ryco Z 63 has been put forward as an alternate possibility--- any comments on filters guys ????
Cheers , Al .

Oh yup some SS aftermarket exhausts dont fit when you have an external filter set up---done arsk me how I know.

xornge666x Wolfsburg Wizard

460 posts · joined Sep 2006 · 30 Jan 2007, 11:59 am

#568336

W 719/5 is a 1.6 / 1.8 golf filter. That is what I would use as i've fitted many without problems. Has anti drainback and suitable bypass opening pressure...

[ Edited on 30-1-2007 by xornge666x ]

BASHOdi Wolfsburg Wizard

441 posts · joined Nov 2006 · 31 Jan 2007, 4:15 pm

#568635

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHA thanks mate.

xornge666x wrote:W 719/5 is a 1.6 / 1.8 golf filter. That is what I would use as i've fitted many without problems. Has anti drainback and suitable bypass opening pressure...

[ Edited on 30-1-2007 by xornge666x ]