Building a brand new engine

Learner Officially Full-On Dubber

238 posts · joined Jul 2006 · 14 Feb 2007, 1:58 am

#572485

First of all what is a good engine case? i'm looking at building a 2300 liters or less. i heard it's a bad idea to have a reinforced #3 cylinder?
what should i be looking at for a performance case?

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 14 Feb 2007, 6:18 am

#572498

Try the new Aluminium case as they have a high roof area so as to fit a counter weighted crank easier

It also has a filled in section for the bore on number 3 cylinder when your boring the case out to take the larger barrels you need this area filled in

Unless you find a new type manesium case dont bother trying to make a big capacity engine from an old case as it will cost you more in the long run

the Alloy case is slightly heavier than the Magnesium one but with the extra capacity you wont worry about the weight

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 14 Feb 2007, 7:21 pm

#572677

Ally case................best $700 you will spend.

bond Veteran Volks Folk

2,456 posts · joined Jul 2003 · 14 Feb 2007, 7:24 pm

#572680

2300 litres? probly wont fit in a bug.. or even a kombi... maybe a cruise liner...

not to offend - but decide what you want. then research. read. then ask.

nick

maybe a better question to ask would be - are there any popular links online for building a performance motor?

try http://www.aircooled.net/gnrlsite/resource/articles.htm

[ Edited on 14-2-2007 by bond ]

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 14 Feb 2007, 7:49 pm

#572688

2300 litres? probly wont fit in a bug..

Of course it will but as Bond suggests

do some research

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

Learner Officially Full-On Dubber

238 posts · joined Jul 2006 · 15 Feb 2007, 1:58 pm

#572893

did my research best would be a stock case. i just got to make sure what i put in it all is compactible and set up properly. best cooling systerm at affordable price is the stock doghouse system.

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 15 Feb 2007, 3:16 pm

#572906

best of luck 👍

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 15 Feb 2007, 3:54 pm

#572916

The first thing to research is whether you have $5000+ in the bank - because that's at least what a well-built engine will cost

Pay your debts, CxxT

bond Veteran Volks Folk

2,456 posts · joined Jul 2003 · 15 Feb 2007, 4:15 pm

#572924

2300 litres... lol... i still dont think this will fit in a bug....

nick

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1,772 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 15 Feb 2007, 4:28 pm

#572933

bond wrote:2300 litres... lol... i still dont think this will fit in a bug....

nick

Yeah it will,

it's compactible!

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2,078 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 15 Feb 2007, 4:33 pm

#572942

The high compression version is narrower nick :kiss

bond wrote:2300 litres... lol... i still dont think this will fit in a bug....

nick

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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 15 Feb 2007, 4:51 pm

#572957

Buy an Alloy case other wise your gunna waste a lot of money

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

Learner Officially Full-On Dubber

238 posts · joined Jul 2006 · 16 Feb 2007, 8:19 am

#573129

yes it will fit... well i would buy an alloy case if i can find one that hasn't been modified at th #3 cylinder.

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1,772 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 16 Feb 2007, 8:24 am

#573131

Buy one off Mr Pobjoy.

He can do any machining on it that you need.

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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 16 Feb 2007, 8:47 am

#573135

Learner wrote:yes it will fit... well i would buy an alloy case if i can find one that hasn't been modified at th #3 cylinder.

Nobody seems to get the joke: 2300 litres is probably big enough to power a container ship so no, probably won't fit a VW's bum

2300 CC might be more like it

You might be better off with a Type IV based engine if you need/want that capacity - but as I hinted, check the bank balance first...

[ Edited on 15-2-2007 by VWCOOL ]

Pay your debts, CxxT

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1,080 posts · joined Nov 2005 · 16 Feb 2007, 8:43 pm

#573295

Are you poor?

Click the Beetle

Learner Officially Full-On Dubber

238 posts · joined Jul 2006 · 16 Feb 2007, 11:53 pm

#573318

yeah well ppl no fighting we all know i meant 1300cc right? hehe i'm goin through genberg. he is personaly helping me out (at a distance)

Learner Officially Full-On Dubber

238 posts · joined Jul 2006 · 16 Feb 2007, 11:59 pm

#573319

i mean 2300

bond Veteran Volks Folk

2,456 posts · joined Jul 2003 · 17 Feb 2007, 7:57 am

#573345

gene berg is not personally helping you out

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4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 17 Feb 2007, 8:47 am

#573355

Why do you want a case that hasnt been modded at the No.3 cylinder?? That is the weak spot in the case. The new Aluminium cases have made a change to fix this......

The $700 spent on a new case will save you $$$$

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Learner Officially Full-On Dubber

238 posts · joined Jul 2006 · 19 Feb 2007, 9:11 am

#573861

no he isn't but i like to think so. about the # 3 cylinder check out his website (gene berg) it really does make sence not too. save the money to put it in something more usefull.

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 19 Feb 2007, 10:38 am

#573886

Learner wrote:yeah well ppl no fighting we all know i meant 1300cc right? hehe i'm goin through genberg. he is personaly helping me out (at a distance)

That'll be a BIG distance...

Do you have any more than the $2000 you said your budget was?

Pay your debts, CxxT

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 19 Feb 2007, 11:08 am

#573897

Henry Ford is personally helping me out........................as I just bought a new ford.

Takhoal Seriously Crusin Dubber

144 posts · joined May 2006 · 20 Feb 2007, 9:33 am

#574180

Craig Torrens wrote:Ally case................best $700 you will spend.

Im in the market for a new case for a stroker im building and $700 sounds like a good deal, who does them for that price and what branding do they carry Craig? last time I enquired I was quoted over the $1.1k mark :o

I have an okay as41 but if I can get the right case for a good price, I'll just use the as41 for a stock stroke engine for my bug, save me clearancing and the like, havent screwed a VW motor together for 19yrs so anything that can save me time and brain matter is a good thing. ( and oh so shiney new ones looks the dogs bollocks too 🙂 )

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 20 Feb 2007, 8:01 pm

#574324

Takhoal you have u2u re case

they are Autolinea

Takhoal Seriously Crusin Dubber

144 posts · joined May 2006 · 20 Feb 2007, 8:08 pm

#574328

Craig Torrens wrote:Takhoal you have u2u re case

they are Autolinea

Much obliged Craig, replied to.

1916 Officially Full-On Dubber

208 posts · joined Sep 2006 · 20 Feb 2007, 8:38 pm

#574342

come on people..stop being so harsh.

we all want berg to help us 🙂

i get the feeling he is talking about bergs documents posted on his site giving him the info he needs for an engine build.

P.S. Hilter helped me build my bug,. HAHA

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Learner Officially Full-On Dubber

238 posts · joined Jul 2006 · 21 Feb 2007, 8:08 pm

#574600

hehe i hard to crack a joke in those forums but there are some pretty damn smart ppl.

anyway yes i have read his article which i got off someone online. (more than what's posted online on his site). all sounds really convinsing and quite honestly i recon he makes lots of sence. why fix the effect when u can fix the problem?
anyway i recon i'll go berg to build my engine.
unless anyone else go a beeter place to go to around melbourne. How's that shop next to clayton road? i think it's wolksmen art? how are their engines?

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 21 Feb 2007, 8:13 pm

#574605

What compression ratio does berg suggest to run?

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2,185 posts · joined Oct 2005 · 23 Feb 2007, 1:23 am

#574927

I had tea and bickies with Gene Berg this morning... :alien:

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