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karmannghia60 Karmann Ghia Sucker

1,459 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#57517
I might be tearing my T1 engine apart soon for a rebuild. Is there are sealent to go between the barrels and case? What type? What about between the case halves?
Raf

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#57521
I use an Avaition type sealant, Loctite # 3, its a browny colour n stinks, but always stays moist. Its a non hardening type

There a similar types at most auto shops.
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karmannghia60 Karmann Ghia Sucker

1,459 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#57526
So this is the stuff to use for the case halves as well?

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#57590
Case halfs, push rod tube seals, rear oil seal.... anything.
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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#57601
vw54 wrote:push rod tube seals,
ummm..... i thought these were clean but dry? 🙁
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waltermitty Legend when my beer goggles are on

1,993 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#57608
what Dave says ,sticy ant poo stuff.
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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#57668
No leaks on my tubes dude 😀
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#57710
Hi

I always use Curil made Elring the VW factory gasket company. I never put anything on pushrod tubes seals either. Under no circumstances use silicon.

1302Steve

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#57785
Raf

Yes Curilall ( spell) is another good one as it does not go hard. Its a very light poo brown colour n comes in a tube.

I just use a smear on the push rod tubes.
It dont hurt.

Let me know if you carnt find it in Mel n will send some down,.
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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#57791
vw54 wrote:Its a very light poo brown colour n comes in a tube.

I just use a smear on the push rod tubes.
It dont hurt.
:o:o

Childish but funny!
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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#57792
No one has mentioned the barrel sealant

There is a hi temp silicone RPV? or something
and also a blue one.

Either way i didnt use the Locktite or Curilall(sp?) there, it was these other colour stuff
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karmannghia60 Karmann Ghia Sucker

1,459 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#57835
Thank you all for the good advice
Dave, will let you know if I can't find it
Raf

amazer kombi pilot

3,187 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#57836
I use permatex on case halves and pretty much silicon anywhere else.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#57842
I use permatex everywhere.

I don't like silicone, I found it leaks prematurely if used under the barrels. I found permatex works much better there. I also use it on push rod tube seals.

The only place I found where nothing was the best is the cork rocker cover gaskets.
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amazer kombi pilot

3,187 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#57843
Dont you just hate it when your bottle of permatex tips over and there's gluggy tarry crap on your bench, or even worse on your tools!

I wish I could find ANYTHING that would work on my POS dry sump pump! Always a constant source of leaks.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#57860
or you take some with you in your toolbox, and it leaks in the toolbox.

I usually spill mine on the shed floor. it's pretty disgusting stuff.

Permatex 3H or something... Now renamed Loctite something as Dave described?
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#57870
Worse still when you get it on yr fingers,,,, n scratch yr face.. brown crap all over yr fingers n face.

Paint thiners get it of.

Dont use Silicone.

Hey Wes it used to be called Rolls Royce Jointing Compound, a few years ago. Dont know if Rolls had anything to do with the developement of it.
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amazer kombi pilot

3,187 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#57872
Why not silicone?
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#57878
I found this out a long time ago. It BEADS or forms a bead when compressed if overused.

I used it to seal a fuel tank sender unit only a smear... and it beaded and eventually broke off.

I didnt have the stock fuel filter in the tank stand pipe so the silicone, was aloud to swell from the fuel form say about 1/32 Inches dia to about 1/8inches dia

Once it was this size it just some how sucked into the fuel line cause the car to stop running every now and then

Too some time to figure it out, but i suspect it would do the same with the engine if beaded say oin the base on teh cylinder barrells.

It would swell if contacted with oil and possible get sucked into the system causing blockages etc etc
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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#57918
pretty sure it was on the old Total vw forum. One of the mass motor builders use to use it. Cant/wont remember who. Anyway it use to bead and break off if the case.
From there it would get stuck in the oil galleries.
"Apparently" this motor builder had a significantly higher failure rate towards oil starvation.
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70AutoStik Insano Dub Head

730 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#58506
Funny, VW recommends High Temp RTV for the barrel-mating surface...