jap import engine or aircooled?

Learner Officially Full-On Dubber

238 posts · joined Jul 2006 · 8 Mar 2007, 11:33 am

#577602

I am still undecided if i wanty jap import or aircooled.
I understand that aircooled would be more exp than jap. (powerwise)

what would be the cost to transplant the engine? (for the jap) i know i can get front cuts for less than 5000

and again if i go jap what the main engines i should consider for it? sub or rotary? any other engines?

Am i wrong when i say that it's possible the lift the gearbox and engine for more clearance?

i guess with japs u get the comfort of heating and ac?

13bwagon Officially Full-On Dubber

316 posts · joined Nov 2006 · 9 Mar 2007, 8:41 pm

#577838

jap job= 8k with all the shite you need
don't go rotary unless you have a realy high ratio gear box
stay air cool for a cheap job go subi if you have the bucks

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64vwmark Fahrvergnugen

930 posts · joined Dec 2004 · 9 Mar 2007, 9:16 pm

#577847

I would keep it simple and stick with the air cooled motor.

If you are quite experienced with engine conversions then go for it, but if you aren't, expect to pay bulk $$$ if you going to get someone else to do it.

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subibaja Wolfsburg Wizard

501 posts · joined Sep 2005 · 17 Mar 2007, 10:24 am

#579156

64vwmark wrote:I would keep it simple and stick with the air cooled motor.

If you are quite experienced with engine conversions then go for it, but if you aren't, expect to pay bulk $$$ if you going to get someone else to do it.

whats big bucks
8000or so for a big vw motor once you get all the bits carbs and that and it will not be as reliable
or
do it yourself jap stuff
i did mine for about 4000
with 140 hp and reliability
yes i used to work at custom and had the tools there
but surely if you ask enough questions from the right people
you,ll be right

your call but i know you wont see me going back

anyone who says it's bad to put subaru motors in vw's.....
hasnt got a clue about smoooooooooth

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Learner Officially Full-On Dubber

238 posts · joined Jul 2006 · 17 Mar 2007, 9:39 pm

#579286

yes i am really tempted to go jap but i have no mechanic knowledge. would i be able to learn just by asking quetions? i am a fast learner...

as for what engine:
i was thinking of nissan?VQ25DD
toyota: 4GR-FSE or 2MZ-FE
or even mazda kl-ze
(nissan ones would be well exp.)

bond Veteran Volks Folk

2,456 posts · joined Jul 2003 · 18 Mar 2007, 9:56 am

#579338

thats a good idea - put any one of those engines in - you'll be fine - should bolt straight up. nothing to learn. easy as pie and cheap as chips!

goodluck

nick

helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 18 Mar 2007, 10:20 am

#579342

This may sound like I am commenting from the dark side. I see merits in a lot of engine types. I am not specifically a brand person. I really enjoy the coolness and simplicity of dak daking in our aircooled Beetle. I have no races to win.

In the bus, the Suby 2.2 is perfect for highway cruising and effortless hill climbing ability and really good economy and reliability, again not a race winner.

If I wanted to have some Baja fun, I personally would like to have fun in a hi-powered type 1 based engine. I would love to see the looks on people faces when the little bug can give them a right old scare on the street, and have a ball in the scrub.

If I wanted more serious track Beetle action I would try for a turbo rotary or turbo 2.0 Suby application. It would take some serious money to make a serious car, but again it would be fun. Yeah?

At the end of the day I would certainly not do specifically what other people tell me to do, as most people have different opinions. I wouldn't even start on asking what bore or stroke type 1 engine setup people recommend. Go with what your budget can afford at this stage and go from there. You won't enjoy a half finished project that you can't drive.

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Learner Officially Full-On Dubber

238 posts · joined Jul 2006 · 18 Mar 2007, 11:39 am

#579358

i don't think all those engines are just bolt in i know wex as a klze an had to cut as for the ohers i have never seen or heard it done.

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 19 Mar 2007, 9:04 am

#579571

Well I love my V6, and won't go back to a VW engine unless it is in something that I rarely have to drive.

Read through my website and the V6 transplant diary. If you think you can do the stuff in there, then go for it.

The EJ22 like Terry has is a great choice, because you don't need to cut or go crazy with support frames. Also Brad at COR has done heaps and can help out with advice and teething problems.

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pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 21 Mar 2007, 11:49 am

#580081

gotta ask yourself a few questions.

1. are you are VW purist? if so stick with a VW motor
2. are you low on money? $2k gets you a nice 1640 that will go great offroad.
3. do you want real power? VW motors don't make real power for under $10k. A subaru Ej20 turbo puts out 200hp plus for a lot less.
4. do you want to be able to buy parts anywhere? VW parts for hipo engines are not available at repco. stock subaru parts are.

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