Starting to gather bits for the oval and working through my list of wants.
What is the best t-bar style shifter ?
Engine will be mild 15-1600.
What are your experiences, things to look out for etc.
Advice is always appreciated.
1959 Mercedes Benz 190
1963 Chevrolet Corvair
1969 BMW 2002 Auto
1973 Mercedes Benz 230.6
I've got an EMPI short shifter (round knob not T bar) with the ring pull reverse lock out , it came with the car when I bought it , the shift is good and very short compared to stock , the ring pull reverse lock out is a PITA but works well insomuch as it cetrtainly keeps you out of accidental backwards.
I had occasion to remove it a week or so ago whilst fiddling with the handbrake and the construction is very sturdy .
Would I have fitted it if it did'nt come with the car ???Deffinately , if my memory of the "wave me out the window I'm changing" stock shift is any good.
ive used both the scat and the empi, the scat beats the empi hands down where the empi has a longer throw about 3-4 inches, the scat has a throw of about 2 inches between gears. nether are as tight as the quickshift i originally had but it has a reverse lock out
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If you want the ultimate shifter then get a Gene Berg, they do shifters in many styles for both LHD and RHD cars.
just use the standard one.😉
I have had a Berg 'rapid travel' shifter in my car for nearly 16 years and it is sweet.
I used to put it into my 1200 bug during the week it was so nice.
Some people prefer a round knob however, which Bergs don't do.
They are very expensive now-a-days,
but provided your coupling and bush in the tunnel are in good shape,
a stock shifter can work nice, especially with a quick-shift ball and spacer.
Not sure if Daimo was joking or not, but I was fully expecting him to say Berg.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.
I've only tried the empi and scat shifters, i prefer the Scat personally
Cheers guys, might be a case of give it a whirl. Reckon I might treat myself to a Berg, for the looks also........just don't tell my wife!
[ Edited on 21-7-2007 by boristherat ]
1959 Mercedes Benz 190
1963 Chevrolet Corvair
1969 BMW 2002 Auto
1973 Mercedes Benz 230.6
I will add i have a CSP shifter
Never had the others - only stock with shortshift kit
It i s brilliant. Very accurate.
Firm. No vibration.
Has lock out that works rellay well
T or ball - i have and prefer ball
No where near as dear as Berg
http://www.csp-shop.de/cgi-bin/shop2/shop_main.cgi?func=start&wkid=8468127333
Futue te ipsum!!!
boristherat wrote:Cheers guys, might be a case of give it a whirl. Reckon I might treat myself to a Berg, for the looks also........just don't tell my wife!
that's the way, you want me to get you one?, i have to get some more parts next week.
There's one on fleebay in VW parts askin $380 .
🤪
boristherat wrote:Cheers guys, might be a case of give it a whirl. Reckon I might treat myself to a Berg, for the looks also........just don't tell my wife!
[ Edited on 22-7-2007 by BASHOdi ]
dumone how much for a csp? ill need one soon ish
show us your gates
dunno about csp.............i can get all the berg stuff here in less than a week, as i have an account there
the dollar is still good, and freight not all that expensive
If your going to do it - do it NOW
87c in the US$$
Be a LONG time before you will beat that :thumb
Futue te ipsum!!!
where does one buy them from ? direct on csp.com?
show us your gates
Dunno - i got mine off here 2nd hand
Dont think there are any agents here in Aust.
Try contacting OwenMM. That is who i bought my shifter off
[ Edited on 22-7-2007 by Bizarre ]
Futue te ipsum!!!
I would say the Berg too.
I can race change clutchless with ours in the Kombi. Says a lot for the shifter and the box condition. I dunno how long the box will last. :o
Hi
I'm not a fan of the T bar shifter, its very un-ergonomic. The Berg shifter feels very nice and positive, shame they have a T bar. I reckon the best bang for buck shifter is a bent Type 3 shifter with a quick shifter.
Steve
Get a late model Type 3 no problems ( pins to fall out ) and its Stock and cheap
http://www.geneberg.com/cat.php?cPath=17_475_2971
These range from 212 to 243 Us dollars.
Not too bad at the current exchange rate.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.
there's only 3 kinds of shifter.
Berg, Stock, and other
Most people seem normal, till you get to know them.
I've decided to get me a Berg.
Thanks for all your help Daimo...legend!
1959 Mercedes Benz 190
1963 Chevrolet Corvair
1969 BMW 2002 Auto
1973 Mercedes Benz 230.6
