A/C unit pictures for Bizarre!!

napat Slammed & Awesome Dubber

77 posts · joined Jun 2007 · 8 Aug 2007, 3:56 am

#605746

As I promised to send you picture of a/c unit.
Here you are :-)

close up for compressor.

Coil ... or evaporator ??? not sure for this word.

A/C dash :-)

BTW, I narrowed the front beam 2 days ago. turns out running great.
I did it myself.

Almost 1 inch gone for each side. Adjuster ready installed.

[ Edited on 7-8-2007 by napat ]

LUFTMEISTER Veteran Volks Folk

2,041 posts · joined Jul 2005 · 8 Aug 2007, 5:40 am

#605747

looks nice! gotta be happy with that 😊

Customer service is not dead in Australia.

Always after HAZET & MATRA & VW factory tools

vwkg Schnell

314 posts · joined Jan 2007 · 8 Aug 2007, 9:50 am

#605776

Looks great mate, awesome Beetle.

matara Custom Title Time!

1,342 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 8 Aug 2007, 11:44 am

#605790

Hey Napat,

Judging by the stock carby your engine looks like a 1600. What sort of drag does the a/c compressor put on the engine when its on. Is it very noticeable?

Not fitted the steering box kit yet as I'm getting new sills welded in.

Cheers

Steve

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 8 Aug 2007, 1:42 pm

#605806

Thanks heaps Napat.

Interesting

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napat Slammed & Awesome Dubber

77 posts · joined Jun 2007 · 8 Aug 2007, 6:03 pm

#605840

matara wrote:Hey Napat,

Judging by the stock carby your engine looks like a 1600. What sort of drag does the a/c compressor put on the engine when its on. Is it very noticeable?

Not fitted the steering box kit yet as I'm getting new sills welded in.

Cheers

Steve

Hi Steve, :-) good to see you here!

It's 1776cc I just change from stock to 90.5 and a little modification :-)

Umm when compressor start to work... just very very little noticeable.
If you park in a quiet place... you can hear they working. May be 2-3 decibel.

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 · 8 Aug 2007, 8:49 pm

#605900

i think he means more about loss of engine power from the compressor kicking in.

62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 · 8 Aug 2007, 8:51 pm

#605901

on another note, does anyone know where u can buy those stock looking dash grill plates with the cutouts for the guages?

62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

napat Slammed & Awesome Dubber

77 posts · joined Jun 2007 · 8 Aug 2007, 9:35 pm

#605910

Yes, I tell him that very little noticeable. Which means the power loss but not so much :-)
About the grill ... I didnt buy it. I make it in my garage. :P

penguin ackkkkkk thhhhhpt!

3,383 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 11 Aug 2007, 5:25 pm

#606334

Napat,
a couple of questions. What model/make is the compressor you have on the motor and where did you get the blower unit? (the part under the dash) that size looks great for a bug, is it a local made thing or from outside Thailand?
Chris

[ Edited on 11-8-2007 by penguin ]

'Ah, whatever................'

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 12 Aug 2007, 8:43 am

#606398

that compressor is just a sanden one typical to most small jap cars
just go to a wreckers or get on ebay look for anything thats from a smallish 94 on car ( theyre on 134a and dont need retrofitting)

that under dash evap is just the standard one that dealers fitted when the cars were new
few 2nd hand ones getting round on US ebay
they do steal alot of space tho
this isnt a factory one but its same design

his website is http://www.gilmore-enterprises.net/GH/index.htm

napat, thats a very small drive pulley on the crank it wouldnt be spinning the compressor over real fast specially on a low revving vw motor
do many ppl beleive u that its a shorrock supercharger? LOL
ive got a supercharger going on my 74 cant wait to see how many ppl thing i have air conditioning
BTW thats the condensor underneath that is next to the gearbox

-Joel

[ Edited on 12-8-2007 by DUB74L ]

reub VWRX is gone...

2,054 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 12 Aug 2007, 10:08 am

#606401

Any chance of a pic for the compressor bottom mount.

Cheers.

Reub

matara Custom Title Time!

1,342 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 Aug 2007, 12:23 pm

#606417

Barry (Bizarre), seeing as your in the aircon game, can I pick your brain on something. If I were to pu the evap and blower behind the back seat, could you link the output of the blower to the heater tubes under the rear seat, and use the existing heater channel to bring the cool air to the front of the car? Do you think there will be thermal(cooling) loss as the heater tubes aren't insulated. Also would there be a risk of condensation causing premature rusting of the heater channel? Just a thought.

Cheers Steve

[ Edited on 12-8-2007 by matara ]

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 Aug 2007, 1:12 pm

#606418

Steve

Theremal loss - yes. Some. Measurable....probably. But it is a short run.

Condensation. Very likely. Depends how cold it puts the air out. To some extent the carpet would insulate the heaterchannel inside the car. You could armaflex under the rear seat. Underneath - no different to rain.

What you could do though is mount the evap so as it throws the air up from the parcel shelf - so it flows along the roof lining.
Then "suck" the air back the heater channels to the parcel area - drawing the air over the driver??

You could make up a change over so it blows heat and sucks air cond??

Gunna have to get serious about this

Futue te ipsum!!!

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 Aug 2007, 1:15 pm

#606420

Gilmour Enterprises - any one got a returm email from them??

Sent several.
No answer

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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 Aug 2007, 4:09 pm

#606445

Hi

Aircooled net have units on there website. They look OK but would be LHD. Napat, does your engine lid shut OK, it looks close.

As far as the piece under the dash for flat screen bugs, you could have something made up in plastic or fibre glass to fit vents to.

I'm planning to fit AC on my 1303, the subi already has a compressor, I've bought a nice size evaporator & condenser. The condenser will either fit into my tail or in front of the radiator. The evaporator I'm going to fit in the air box where the wiper motor is. I will block of the vents on my scuttle panel and draw air from inside the car only, then blow it over the evaporator and then through vents in the dash.

Steve

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 Aug 2007, 5:09 pm

#606454

The ACnet ones are Gilmour and do RHD in both Super and L bugs for $1400US

Might just go that way

http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=INA0001&cartid=0806200720878522

What would be the difference between a 1302 and a standard beetle for the evap section??
Is the steel dash of a 1032 the same as a standard beetle??

Napat

The AC net set up has a single belt. - ie uses stock crank pulley
Why didnt you just run a single belt??
Not enough contact to drive the alternator from the crank pulley??

[ Edited on 12-8-2007 by Bizarre ]

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matara Custom Title Time!

1,342 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 Aug 2007, 7:52 pm

#606488

I was at a VW show a few years ago in Malaysia where they had a/c in most bugs. Here are some pics I took of their setups:-

Cheers

Steve

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 Aug 2007, 8:26 pm

#606502

and everyone of those runs a seperate belt.

Why??

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 12 Aug 2007, 8:32 pm

#606504

u cant move them back far enough to line up with the main belt
the compressor hits the fan housing

Flintstones Custom Title Time!

1,077 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 Aug 2007, 9:17 pm

#606515

Or is it the gearing from the smaller crank pulley?

Cheers

silver Dangerous when poked

2,169 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 12 Aug 2007, 9:27 pm

#606519

I think I will just open a window!

Keeping it real !

napat Slammed & Awesome Dubber

77 posts · joined Jun 2007 · 14 Aug 2007, 3:58 am

#606671

Hey Bizarre :-)

DUB74 was right!
I cant pull back the compressor enought to use single belt on bug.

I've seen someone does it on his bus (more space on engine compartment) it's turn out "not enought power to spin the compressor" ... but Thailand is very hot may the single belt suit for OZ. I m not sure :-)

Flintstones was right too. small pulley... out put more!

Hey reub-revhead! Will post more pics for you.

1303Steve .. The engine lid shut ok :-) there are 4mm. space between compressor and the lid. If you have oval bug you need a little modification.

Any question? I m here to answer as much as I can.
:-) I have dictionary to translate all technicle terms already!

reub VWRX is gone...

2,054 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 14 Aug 2007, 10:53 pm

#606808

napat wrote:Hey reub-revhead! Will post more pics for you.

Thanks Dude:thumb

Reub

napat Slammed & Awesome Dubber

77 posts · joined Jun 2007 · 16 Aug 2007, 5:30 pm

#607097

:-) here you are!

[ Edited on 16-8-2007 by napat ]

reub VWRX is gone...

2,054 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 2 Sep 2007, 12:08 am

#609782

Thanks dude.

Can I ask where the bracket is fixed to under the car? Is it the head or the body?
Sorry to bug you dude...

Reub

Reub

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 2 Sep 2007, 10:17 am

#609804

all the ones ive seen like that pick up the top #4 exhaust stud

-Joel