6 volt electronic igniton - do they exist?

ratty 63 Custom Title Time!

1,083 posts · joined Oct 2003 · 24 Sep 2007, 10:12 pm

#613611

Hi all,

Does anyone here know if you can get an electronic ignition system (to replace the points) for a 6 volt car?

I have been told that none of the 12 volt systems will work on a 6 volt car (I can understand this 😀 ), but does anyone make a 6 volt version of the same thing?

I'm just hoping to remove another item from the "regular maintenance" list 🙂

R 🙂

40hp, 6V and ...er... slowly making improvements 😂

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305 posts · joined Oct 2006 · 24 Sep 2007, 10:23 pm

#613616

How often do you change your points?

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16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 25 Sep 2007, 6:52 am

#613639

you would be better off converting the whole car to 12Volts then you can run a decent stero as well etc etc etc

I dont think the electronic moduls will work on 6 volts you could try a judson electronic coil they go for about $100 on Ebay

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 25 Sep 2007, 12:43 pm

#613669

You will still have to open the dizzy to re-lube the centre shaft felt
for the centifugal weights (unless it is vac only) regularly.

Points systems can be trouble free if correctly fitted and maintained.

You could try an electronic module on 6 volts,
and change to 12 in the whole car if he no worky.

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1,921 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 25 Sep 2007, 6:00 pm

#613705

I'dd bet a carton of Crownies on Ross not changing to 12 volts.

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2,937 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 26 Sep 2007, 7:06 am

#613803

I am pretty sure the Compufire Hall Cell (points replacement) will operate on either 12 or 6 volts

send them an email===>> http://www.compufire.com/vw-products-main.html

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2 posts · joined Sep 2007 · 27 Sep 2007, 9:14 am

#613943

Check out

http://www.csp-shop.de/cgi-bin/shop2/shop_main.cgi?func=det&wkid=26491114115&rub1=Electric&rub2=Ignition,PERTRONIX-Ignition&artnr=17402b&pn=0

Also

http://www.pertronix.com/downloads/ignitor6vneg.pdf

ratty 63 Custom Title Time!

1,083 posts · joined Oct 2003 · 11 Oct 2007, 11:58 pm

#616128

A Westwood wrote:I'dd bet a carton of Crownies on Ross not changing to 12 volts.

Someone knows me too well! 😀 Don't get me wrong - I can see the benefits of converting to 12 volts - but it's not going to happen in this car (every other VW I own is 12 volt - so that I can fit EFI 🙂 )

Thanks for the links folks, I'll have a look at them and see what happens....

Have to get my new 1400cc motor built first.... 🤪

R 🙂

Oh, yeah - in case anyone was wondering, a stock 1600 will start with a good condition 6 volt electrical system, but I wouldn't want to run an engine with higher than normal compression.

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ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

1,986 posts · joined Mar 2004 · 13 Oct 2007, 8:01 am

#616282

Hey Ross, I know a 1600 will start with a 6 volt starter as I had that for about 10 years or longer! But how would the 6 volts go with the igntion coil? Does that still work? I'm not the best with electrics and just curious.

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4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 13 Oct 2007, 8:33 am

#616287

ancientbugger wrote:But how would the 6 volts go with the igntion coil? Does that still work?

With a 6V coil it does...... :P

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ratty 63 Custom Title Time!

1,083 posts · joined Oct 2003 · 16 Oct 2007, 4:47 pm

#616818

ancientbugger wrote:Hey Ross, I know a 1600 will start with a 6 volt starter as I had that for about 10 years or longer! But how would the 6 volts go with the igntion coil? Does that still work? I'm not the best with electrics and just curious.

...as 11CAB says...

You still have to fit all the 6 volt electrical items to the engine (coil, choke(s), etc) - I mainly mentioned this because I was told repeatedly that a 1600 engine would be 'too much effort' for even a healthy 6 volt electrical system to turn over reliably. This simply isn't true.

R 🙂

40hp, 6V and ...er... slowly making improvements 😂

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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 16 Oct 2007, 7:00 pm

#616834

A 6 volt coil would overheat and burn out with 12 - 14V
going thru it...
thats the theory...

but cars with resistor coils -
the coils are approx 7 Volt coils -
when the starter motor is turning over and using most of the power from the battery there should be a voltage drop and then all the power goes direct to the 7 v coil..

once the engine starts, the power to the coil goes thru the resistor so the coil won't burn out or overheat..

so, You could use a 6V coil with a resistor

or it would get you out of trouble...

Lee

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