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karmann54 Officially Full-On Dubber

337 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#621229
What motor(s) were available as standard on the later type 3's in Australia?

jo_tas Custom Title Time!

1,547 posts · joined Aug 2004 ·

#621333
Or 1600 EFI... but theres not many of those getting around because rednecks who can't be bothered learning about them just rip it out and replace it with carbies..

karmann54 Officially Full-On Dubber

337 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#621407
That's what I thought - I wasn't sure if a single carby 1600 was still available then, with the twin-carby as the optional extra...Thanks for the replies.

Angus

mp68 Commited Dubber

68 posts · joined Jan 2007 ·

#621512
Think "redneck" comment bit unwelcome in this forum which is a happy place. Normally mellow thoughts without negative vibe .

Volkswagenboy Staggers Automotive.

2,437 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·

#621972
I'm sure Jo didn't mean to offend anyone, but it's true.
Many people opt to just remove the FI setup just because it might need a tune up or something.
-Staggers.
STAGGERS AUTOMOTIVE - Heavy Vehicle Diesel Specialist
JB CUSTOMS & CLASSICS - Car Builders
2/53 Tradelink Drive, Browns Plains

MickH Hairy Gutted Sloth

3,389 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#621974
mp68 wrote:Think "redneck" comment bit unwelcome in this forum which is a happy place. Normally mellow thoughts without negative vibe .
I'm sure Jo wasn't implying anything to the people of Bundaberg...but it was a fair comment.People saw the EFI as too complex so stuck with what they knew if they had problems...they went back to carbs.🥲
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HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!

3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#622025
mp68 wrote:Think "redneck" comment bit unwelcome in this forum which is a happy place. Normally mellow thoughts without negative vibe .
Precious much?

Tazz Old Skool

1,315 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#622191
mp68 wrote:Think "redneck" comment bit unwelcome in this forum which is a happy place. Normally mellow thoughts without negative vibe .
Unwelcome... lol....
I will quote who i feel is to be the biggest redneck around.

To me, the definition of redneck is a glorious absense of sophestication
I think we are all guilty of that at one time or another

I am a redneck. and proud!

Oh and yes... Carbs are much more easier.

To get back on track.
1500 single port single carb. 1500 single port twin carb. aswell as 1600tp and injected.


Tazz
1962 Type3 Squareback
1967 Type3 Fastback "Kermit"

The truth is important. It will set you free

11CAB If ya got it....Baja it

4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#622218
"You might be a redneck if your Christmas ornaments are made out of spent shot-gun shells."
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fastyman66 Seriously Crusin Dubber

152 posts · joined Jul 2006 ·

#622286
mp68 wrote:Think "redneck" comment bit unwelcome in this forum which is a happy place. Normally mellow thoughts without negative vibe .
You used VIBE and MELLOW all in one sentence 😂 Now for CHILL, GROOVY and PEACE OUT.😎

Rota\_Motor Casual Dubber

25 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#622394
the comment about rednecks may be fairly accurate, but the tern used to describe the type of people that remove EFI for the simplicity of carbs is probably not really 'redneck'
(my boss doesnt seem to like fuel injected cars of any kind because its too hard to figure out problems)
Danielles beetle is back of the road for its makeover, and I got the job of project manager/head mechanic/artistic advisor/ideas man.
and somehow she got a type 3, which is all good, because I got 'Victa' the 'spare parts Type 3'

Volkswagenboy Staggers Automotive.

2,437 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·

#622426
Dang nammit.
-Staggers.
STAGGERS AUTOMOTIVE - Heavy Vehicle Diesel Specialist
JB CUSTOMS & CLASSICS - Car Builders
2/53 Tradelink Drive, Browns Plains

jo_tas Custom Title Time!

1,547 posts · joined Aug 2004 ·

#622440
"You might be a redneck if - you're offended by my last post"
😀
Sorry couldn't resist.

Seriously though, i know you don't have to be a "redneck" to rip off the EFI, and i know that alot of the time it was because parts were too hard to get hold of etc etc.

I still think its a damn shame. 🙁

kombimatt Officially Full-On Dubber

271 posts · joined Nov 2006 ·

#622467
Go the Fuel Injection

Keepin' it Lovin' it and proud!
Matt
Lovin' the Dubs

tdegens Wolfsburg Wizard

425 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·

#622469
I guess the term redneck evolved from the redness in the neck when the customer tried to strangle the mechanic for not fixing the efi properly.

Rota\_Motor Casual Dubber

25 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#622543
tdegens wrote:I guess the term redneck evolved from the redness in the neck when the customer tried to strangle the mechanic for charging so much to fix the efi properly.
that sounds better. just a little offtopic, does anyone ditch the stock management and use something a little more advanced on these things??
Danielles beetle is back of the road for its makeover, and I got the job of project manager/head mechanic/artistic advisor/ideas man.
and somehow she got a type 3, which is all good, because I got 'Victa' the 'spare parts Type 3'

bigdave Officially Full-On Dubber

329 posts · joined Aug 2006 ·

#622556
I am with Matt. Running stock efi on my daily driver - no probs. Interested to know how many efi's managed to survive this "evil redneckness that they speak of" and still going strong.

Cheers
Dave

Boostn Wolfsburg Wizard

657 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#623433
jo_tas wrote:Or 1600 EFI... but theres not many of those getting around because rednecks who can't be bothered learning about them just rip it out and replace it with carbies..
Spot on!

either too hard or no idea back then.
but now they are getting old and all the sensors are expensive or hard to get.
for the last three years or so i have been using the stock set up with an after market computer and injectors. They drive so nice and save fuel and go like an 1800cc.
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Andy Andy\'s Adventures

2,820 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#623442
All my type 3's lost the EFI with the previous owners 🙁
There must be heaps of EFI parts either at the dump or burried in sheds around the country.

Boostn Wolfsburg Wizard

657 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#623563
Andy wrote:All my type 3's lost the EFI with the previous owners 🙁
There must be heaps of EFI parts either at the dump or burried in sheds around the country.
I think everyone threw them out!
I have been struggling to get the original manifolds lately.
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karmann54 Officially Full-On Dubber

337 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#623566
You ask a simple question and look where it goes!

Tazz Old Skool

1,315 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#623631
Well you did leave it too long to check back.. lol
did you expect anything less for us type3 owners.... Long live my Dell's and my 1500sp single carb...


Tazz
1962 Type3 Squareback
1967 Type3 Fastback "Kermit"

The truth is important. It will set you free

Volkswagenboy Staggers Automotive.

2,437 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·

#624320
Long live the EFI!
Sorry Tazz, just had to add my bit!
-Staggers.
STAGGERS AUTOMOTIVE - Heavy Vehicle Diesel Specialist
JB CUSTOMS & CLASSICS - Car Builders
2/53 Tradelink Drive, Browns Plains

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#624350
From memory I think the EFIs engines were only in the Fastbacks

anyone seen any different ???

there were also 1600 single port engines with twin carbies from about 67 to early 69 when they introduced the twin port heads
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

Tazz Old Skool

1,315 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#624365
Think your right dave.... i have noticed out of all the EFI cars.. there all fasties...


Tazz
1962 Type3 Squareback
1967 Type3 Fastback "Kermit"

The truth is important. It will set you free

karmann54 Officially Full-On Dubber

337 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#624718
The reason for my original question is that I'd looked at a '72 square that seemed generally very original and unmolested - original books, low miles etc. Being sold by the daughter after her father died and left to her. It had a single carby/single port motor. I assumed the motor had been changed out, but thought I'd ask the question as I don't know the ins and outs of type 3's. The general view of replies is that either the 1600 twin-carb or 1600 EFI motor was the motor on a '72 model.

However now I've looked a bit more having got it home I wonder if perhaps it is original. The daughter is not sure, but thinks the mileage (89000 miles) is original as neither her father or her uncle who owned it before him from almost new drove it a lot. The condition of the seats/carpet etc would support these miles also. 89k miles seems low to need a motor change. The handbook (August 1971 printed in Germany) shows that either a 1600 twin-carby motor, 1500 single carb motor or 1600 EFI motor was available, but varied over different markets.

The engine lid has a 'shadow' marking on the underside from the air cleaner, but no sign of any such shadow from a twin-carby arrangement. I haven't found the engine number yet, need to have a bit of a clean-up to see this. Genny is 12V.

I guess I'm asking does this seem feasible if a bit unusual to have a 1500 single-port in a '72 square as standard? I'll get the engine number ASAP, I'm only aware of the general area for the number.

It doesn't worry me much, easier to keep the engine in tune but nice to know one way or the other.

Cheers, Angus

jonno-t3 Officially Full-On Dubber

289 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#625836
there were the double carb models on single and twin port. also the type 3 series was the first ever production car in the world to have efi.
but i thought they came out with a single carb model as well.... i thought i saw a type three at a vw show once with a single carb. might be wrong....

jonno
"if only everything in life was made like a volkswagen"

Tazz Old Skool

1,315 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#625858

1500 single port single carb. 1500 single port twin carb. aswell as 1600tp and injected.


Tazz

Yup... as i said....

Tazz
1962 Type3 Squareback
1967 Type3 Fastback "Kermit"

The truth is important. It will set you free