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General_Failure Use your head, don't abuse it!

1,036 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#623605
G'day.

I had a horrible suspicion confirmed more or less today. That fuel is somehow getting into the oil of my 1800 dual carb van.

My first clue was it got through $10 awfully fast, especially considering I was just doing the timing etc.

Next clue was the weird oil puddle it is making. It seemed awfully absorbable by everything.

Another big one was the oil level seemed to go up.

I didn't pick up on it earlier because my sense of smell is pretty useless.

Question is, what is the most likely culprit?

I'm using an electric fuel pump. Every time I turn on the van there is the "tacka-tacka" of it filling the carbs then it drops to maybe one "tack" every 30 seconds when they are full. Not perfect I know, but it doesn't seem like a gushing leak.
Also I generally don't have the van turned on unless it is running because of both pump and coil being active and all.

Is it:
* The latent pressure in the fuel line driving the fuel through.

* The electric pump not stopping the flow properly when the van is off.

* The carbies just letting fuel dump through when its running.

* ???

Also something worth noting is I have to keep pumping the accelerator to get it started, and it feels like it keeps starving of fuel.

About all I'll be able to do in the next week due to time constraints is reconnect the mechanical pump, change the oil and put some fuel in.

It's not on the road so its no major issue. All I have to do is move it to get another car out.
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phatratpat Fahrvergnugen

958 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#623609
faulty needle and seat,,happened to my first engine
not good, change oil or motor goes boom ! ! !

mine actualy hydrolocked and bent a conrod !.....🙁

greedy53 Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,062 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#623646
yep over flowing the carby while stationary i had a gemini that emptyed the tank and filled the sump in 12 hours bloody funny but really clean engine
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rocknrob Insano Dub Head

844 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#623648
trouble with a kombi is that once the tank is around half full or so the fuel level is higher than your carbs...any leak at all and petrol will syphon into your engine even while you are sleeping😠 I've heard that adding an electic pump means you need and electric shutoff solenoid👍

Tazz Old Skool

1,315 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#623656
yup.. added both to my Fasty when i drained the fuel tank into my sump...

They work great.

Tazz
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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#623673
General_Failure wrote:Also something worth noting is I have to keep pumping the accelerator to get it started, and it feels like it keeps starving of fuel.
Its not starving, its actually flooded and the spark plugs are wet with fuel.


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7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#623699
yep fuel in oil in a T2 = needle and seats sticking open..
get some new ones and test em about 50 times so they dont stick open and away you go
painful but ohhh so T2..
goodluck with it
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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#623817
Yes I agree its the needle and seat
leaking too much fuel into the bowl....

it can be caused by too much pressure in the electric pump....
or a bit of dirt in the needle and seat...

You can try taking the needle and seat out and blowing thru them...
and pushing the needle in and out a lot of times...
if there is something causing the excess fuel...
like a bit of dirt etc...
You may clean it enough to work OK....

I had a few problems.... including the above one...

and I added a fuel pressure regulator...
and eventually a fuel pressure gauge...
and turned the fuel pressure down to 2 PSI... approx..

so, every time I look at the gauge [in the engine bay]
I can see how much pressure is in the line....

cheers

Lee

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ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

1,986 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#623830
But as Greedy said, you do get a very clean engine😉

General_Failure Use your head, don't abuse it!

1,036 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#623888
I'll pull the carbies to bits in the next couple of days to have a look. I'm surprised the fuel cutoff solenoids didn't do their job to be honest.
If at first you don't succeed. Build, build again.
Vehicle: 1975 Special order delivery walkthrough panel based LCA pop-top camper. Motor: Nippon 1.8L Single port Wasserboxer, Transmission: 3 rib 002.