Air fuel ratio

Stanley I guess the reward is in the doing of it

4,523 posts · joined Mar 2003 · 11 Jan 2008, 7:12 pm

#627818

I'm looking at fitting an air fuel ratio meter/guage to my turbo. Looked into the jaycar unit http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=KC5300&CATID=&keywords=fuel&SPECIAL=&form=KEYWORD&ProdCodeOnly=&Keyword1=&Keyword2=&pageNumber=&priceMin=&priceMax=&SUBCATID but the bosch sensor is fairly expensive.

Anybody had any dealings with this unit or any other types.

Cheers

HS618 Officially Full-On Dubber

277 posts · joined Mar 2005 · 11 Jan 2008, 8:41 pm

#627837

Stanley
I have had a KC5300 kit for some time.Yes, the LSM11 (Bosch Motorsport) sensor is expensive, but it has a lot more range on the lean side (up to 19:1).
I didn't see the value in knowing how lean the engine was, if it's lean, fix it. I was more interested in how rich the car is running. I purposely set up my Bugspray rich to allow the engine to live!
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I ended up using a cheap VN Commodore single wire Bosch sensor and it works fine. It reads within a minute of the car starting from cold.
I would double check the output reading accuracy of the unit with a wide band sensor on a dyno etc.
I ended up drilling a hole in the rear of the mixture meter box so I could adjust the unit without pulling it apart
I would also recommend looking at this site http://www.techedge.com.au/
They also have similar style readers but use a wide band sensor
Hope it helps

11CAB If ya got it....Baja it

4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 11 Jan 2008, 9:02 pm

#627843

We've got the LED version at work that gets used occasionally.....I like it as it goes from green,yellow,red....easier to see whats happening rather than numbers.

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9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 11 Jan 2008, 9:08 pm

#627846

i use a 3 wire univeral heated sensor on mine
it was only $50 from enginesensorsandsystems
its running without heat connected atm and u can really notice the difference, it takes a few mins to start working and does nothing at idle

i agree with 11cab
i just got one of those LED bar graph style gauges too
it matches the rest of my gauges perfectly
i originally got one of these ones from jaycar
but i wasnt real impressed with it and i hate having to build shit like that it didnt work properly and jumped all over the place heaps
u get what u pay for and when it comes down to it nothing matches a wideband

Stanley I guess the reward is in the doing of it

4,523 posts · joined Mar 2003 · 12 Jan 2008, 1:29 pm

#627931

Thanks guys.
The Tech Edge one with the round gauge style meter and the LED's around the outside looks ok. And you don't have to build it which is a bonus.
I'm pretty sure it's running rich as the plugs are always sooty, but at full noise I want to be sure.

thanks again

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 17 Jan 2008, 9:10 pm

#628657

what about this one ?
http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=1673

Looks OK ?

Judsons4eva Officially Full-On Dubber

270 posts · joined Oct 2004 · 17 Jan 2008, 10:12 pm

#628670

I use one from http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/. They have an Australian agent from Qld shown on website. I have the LC1 cable that connects to laptop or a standard multimeter

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Stanley I guess the reward is in the doing of it

4,523 posts · joined Mar 2003 · 18 Jan 2008, 7:16 am

#628686

Both units look good. The CB unit is a fairly good price to. The innovate has the advantage of being able to interface with a computer, but is probably more than what I require.

I'm still leaning (no pun) towards the tech edge unit. I sent an email to the owner and had a reply back in an hour....on a Sunday. I think being a locally produced unit would be an advantage if only for warranty.

Cheers

Craig Torrens wrote:what about this one ?
http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=1673

Looks OK ?

76bug Officially Full-On Dubber

215 posts · joined Feb 2005 · 18 Jan 2008, 8:43 am

#628691

i have used tech edge and can highly recomend them they use a bosch sensor which costs around $70-$80, this is a windeband unit far better than a norrow band kit such as the jaycar stuff.

76bug Officially Full-On Dubber

215 posts · joined Feb 2005 · 18 Jan 2008, 8:45 am

#628692

oh yeah and mainline dyno's use a techedge wideband unit

Judsons4eva Officially Full-On Dubber

270 posts · joined Oct 2004 · 18 Jan 2008, 9:34 am

#628699

The innovate may look expensive but the price includes the wideband sensor - so when you factor that in it is not too bad.

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215 posts · joined Feb 2005 · 18 Jan 2008, 10:13 am

#628704

i agree the innovate is a good unit, there are a few good options out there

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962 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 19 Jan 2008, 9:35 am

#628796

I've used the PLX devices M300 that links directly into my engine management as well though I sold that with my other car. Ive replaced it with a DM100 with the wideband kit. Its not cheap but something that works well generally never is.