Are dropped spindles legal?
Also any advice on installation would be hopefull.
sdat Seriously Crusin Dubber
123 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·
ARE DROPPED SPINDLES LEGAL?
Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l
12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Depends............
Technically nothing is legal if you just bolt it on.
A Momo steering wheel is not legal if it has just been bolted on.
Unless it comes with ADR approval for that car then it isnt legal UNLESS it has been inspected by an approved engineer.
As for dropped spindles - i dont think a lot of them have been engineered - especially link pin type.
I know Golde60 went through pain (time and $$$) to get his engineered
Technically nothing is legal if you just bolt it on.
A Momo steering wheel is not legal if it has just been bolted on.
Unless it comes with ADR approval for that car then it isnt legal UNLESS it has been inspected by an approved engineer.
As for dropped spindles - i dont think a lot of them have been engineered - especially link pin type.
I know Golde60 went through pain (time and $$$) to get his engineered
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mackaymanx Custom Title Time!
1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·
This is the thread Bizarre is refering to
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=27343&page=11#pid397205
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=27343&page=11#pid397205
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xornge666x Wolfsburg Wizard
460 posts · joined Sep 2006 ·
Nothing is legal on a car if not std fitment, unless an engineer ok's it, and then issues a certificate.
I did the testing of the k&l spindles for golde60 (Kim) along with the engineer. It was an involved process, for which Kim had to buy a spindle from CB to break for the test, and I made the jig in which we tested it...
Between calling CB, and the Australian CB suppliers, none of them had ANY info available on tests done on the spindles.
To be legal, you must prove they are as strong, or stronger than the VW part.
I did the testing of the k&l spindles for golde60 (Kim) along with the engineer. It was an involved process, for which Kim had to buy a spindle from CB to break for the test, and I made the jig in which we tested it...
Between calling CB, and the Australian CB suppliers, none of them had ANY info available on tests done on the spindles.
To be legal, you must prove they are as strong, or stronger than the VW part.
sdat Seriously Crusin Dubber
123 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·
Thanks fellas, very helpful, looks like goldie went through the ringer.
sdat Seriously Crusin Dubber
123 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·
Has anybody had an experience in getting Ball joint dropped spindles certified?
MikeM Buggy Head
1,429 posts · joined Aug 2003 ·
Talk to the team at Custom Vee Dub. They have fitted and had engineered a few drop spindle conversions in Brisbane.
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xornge666x Wolfsburg Wizard
460 posts · joined Sep 2006 ·
The ball joint ones are easier, as the CB ones are TUV approved in Europe.
Therefore if you buy them through csp it is possible to get the TUV certificate with them, and I believe that is enough for an engineer to pass them... once you pay them probably around $500 to write the certificate.
In Vic, you also need to upgrade some other things once the car is to be passed, like 2 speed wipers, twin circuit brakes, lap sash belts in all 4 corners etc etc.
Therefore if you buy them through csp it is possible to get the TUV certificate with them, and I believe that is enough for an engineer to pass them... once you pay them probably around $500 to write the certificate.
In Vic, you also need to upgrade some other things once the car is to be passed, like 2 speed wipers, twin circuit brakes, lap sash belts in all 4 corners etc etc.
Golde60 Fahrvergnugen
858 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
xornge666x wrote:The ball joint ones are easier, as the CB ones are TUV approved in Europe.
Therefore if you buy them through csp it is possible to get the TUV certificate with them, and I believe that is enough for an engineer to pass them... once you pay them probably around $500 to write the certificate.
In Vic, you also need to upgrade some other things once the car is to be passed, like 2 speed wipers, twin circuit brakes, lap sash belts in all 4 corners etc etc.
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Golde60 Fahrvergnugen
858 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
went through some pain and $ YES
but it was worth it as I got pulled over by the fuzz twice inside the first 3 months it was on the road for a RWC check.
I knew more about the process than they did, after going through it properly.
when I got pulled over the second time I had a big smile on my face, and when the cop told me that the engineering certificate I showed him was only valid for 30 days, and I gave him a 5 minute answer on why it wasnt - politley - I got told to "move right along thankyou sir"
Was worth every penny
but it was worth it as I got pulled over by the fuzz twice inside the first 3 months it was on the road for a RWC check.
I knew more about the process than they did, after going through it properly.
when I got pulled over the second time I had a big smile on my face, and when the cop told me that the engineering certificate I showed him was only valid for 30 days, and I gave him a 5 minute answer on why it wasnt - politley - I got told to "move right along thankyou sir"
Was worth every penny
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare
8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Hi
I'm not sure about other states, but in NSW a cars rego modified status comes up on the police rego check system, I was followed many times in my old yellow bug only to have the cops turn off, presumably after doing a rego check on my car.
Steve
I'm not sure about other states, but in NSW a cars rego modified status comes up on the police rego check system, I was followed many times in my old yellow bug only to have the cops turn off, presumably after doing a rego check on my car.
Steve
VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome
5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·
yes: the rego certificate will show the words 'Modified as per report number XX" and the windscreen label will show 'Cond XXX'. Steve, do you know if owners/users are required to carry a copy of the Engineers Report in the car? Once upon a time we did... now?1303Steve wrote:Hi
I'm not sure about other states, but in NSW a cars rego modified status comes up on the police rego check system, I was followed many times in my old yellow bug only to have the cops turn off, presumably after doing a rego check on my car.
Steve
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare
8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
yes: the rego certificate will show the words 'Modified as per report number XX" and the windscreen label will show 'Cond XXX'. Steve, do you know if owners/users are required to carry a copy of the Engineers Report in the car? Once upon a time we did... now? [/quote]VWCOOL wrote:
Hi
Believe that you do, but I never bothered and was never asked, but I suppose if you hung areas where the fuzz are bound to pick on cars you might get asked, somewhere like Brighton Beach on the weekend.
Steve
sinecure Want another... :(
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In QLD, even if there is no blue-plate, we are not required to carry the certs in the car, but must be able to provide them within 24 hours if requested.
I've gone through a lot of hassle with my kitcar, as it is not blue-plated, but I was assured by QLD transport that the original Approval as a Modified Production Vehicle papers are all that is required to be provided on request.
This has proven true, as I have been stopped by the Police 14 times in the last two years and had to provide this 'evidence' twice at the differing stations of the officers issuing the request.
Always makes me smile when they read the rego sticker and say "This isn't a 1971 VW".
A work mate got pulled over in his Moke because the (very young) policeman thought he'd put number plates on a golf cart. Nearly stopped breathing I was laughing so hard!
I've gone through a lot of hassle with my kitcar, as it is not blue-plated, but I was assured by QLD transport that the original Approval as a Modified Production Vehicle papers are all that is required to be provided on request.
This has proven true, as I have been stopped by the Police 14 times in the last two years and had to provide this 'evidence' twice at the differing stations of the officers issuing the request.
Always makes me smile when they read the rego sticker and say "This isn't a 1971 VW".
A work mate got pulled over in his Moke because the (very young) policeman thought he'd put number plates on a golf cart. Nearly stopped breathing I was laughing so hard!
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A work mate got pulled over in his Moke because the (very young) policeman thought he'd put number plates on a golf cart. Nearly stopped breathing I was laughing so hard! [/quote]
What a #$%@in stupid cop, they should only let people become cops after they turn 30, a bit of life experience helps alot.
What a #$%@in stupid cop, they should only let people become cops after they turn 30, a bit of life experience helps alot.
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bond Veteran Volks Folk
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not exactly a 'pro' for a potential buyer mick..... lolI have been stopped by the Police 14 times in the last two years and had to provide this 'evidence' twice at the differing stations of the officers issuing the request