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How was it today at Oran, VW fans? manage to kick some butts?
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Oran Park
Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion
8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·
Well what a fun Day !!!!!
Armed with my 1916cc Hillclimb car, sporting a stock Type 3 gearbox, this was my first stab at the supersprint races for this year.
Well there was a few V8's that went home with their tail between their legs, to say the least.
😀
The event was run by the "NSW road racing club" which comprises of members who do race for "sheep stations" (if you know what I mean!) and was a fun event. The racing format was 4 flying laps of the south circuit at Oran park, starting on the grid with a "standing Start".
I thought this may have been a disadvantage with the stock diff,but after slowly feeding the power on in first gear, the 260KW BA XR8 I was lined up against, thought differently !!! 😀😀
Into the first corner with a several car lead, not bad for a 1/8 mile or so straight !
The car went well considering I was on 60 series rubber on widen 14inch steel rims, and the type 3 brakes certainly had a workout.
Temperatures ran well all day, considering I was lapping consistantly in the low 54's , 54.07 the fastest run on the day. The stock gearing (3.8 diff) was OK, although the lack of the Quaife meant that I was wheel spinning around most corners and with any "role on" of power.
Sub 55's On my first run around Oran Park, I can live with that !:thumb
Armed with my 1916cc Hillclimb car, sporting a stock Type 3 gearbox, this was my first stab at the supersprint races for this year.
Well there was a few V8's that went home with their tail between their legs, to say the least.
😀
The event was run by the "NSW road racing club" which comprises of members who do race for "sheep stations" (if you know what I mean!) and was a fun event. The racing format was 4 flying laps of the south circuit at Oran park, starting on the grid with a "standing Start".
I thought this may have been a disadvantage with the stock diff,but after slowly feeding the power on in first gear, the 260KW BA XR8 I was lined up against, thought differently !!! 😀😀
Into the first corner with a several car lead, not bad for a 1/8 mile or so straight !
The car went well considering I was on 60 series rubber on widen 14inch steel rims, and the type 3 brakes certainly had a workout.
Temperatures ran well all day, considering I was lapping consistantly in the low 54's , 54.07 the fastest run on the day. The stock gearing (3.8 diff) was OK, although the lack of the Quaife meant that I was wheel spinning around most corners and with any "role on" of power.
Sub 55's On my first run around Oran Park, I can live with that !:thumb
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jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard
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Well done Craig, I hope that u enjoyed yourself. It was nice cold weather on the weekend as well, perfect for air cooled engines. Did they put u in 2E class? I would expect u to win your class, especially with those times.
Was Rudy there in his L-Bug? he normally runs around the 52second mark.
Hope u can come to Wakefield Park to scare some Porsches.
regards
Jak
Was Rudy there in his L-Bug? he normally runs around the 52second mark.
Hope u can come to Wakefield Park to scare some Porsches.
regards
Jak
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!
Gracey Wolfsburg Wizard
511 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·
Well done Craig, It's goods to hear about hi po V8's getting cained at the race track of all places, especially by a Dak Dak, 1916 no less.:thumb
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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion
8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·
Won the class, although I was really there to research gearing,suspension etc for my other car! (not that I did this !!) It felt like I was driving an auto, as I could do the whole track in Third gear !!!! Over 7500 rpm down the straight ! (although 1 fanbelt didn't like this with the stock pulley, oops there it goes ! 😀) So after that I changed into fourth at 7000.
Rudy and John were both there, sharing Rudy's car. I think Rudy may have gone as low as a 51 something ?? or a very low 52 ?
John was lapping in the low 55's, to achieve a 2nd in class behind Rudy's 1st place
Will have to miss the next Porsche day , I have tickets that weekend to "MAMA MIA" and a dirty weekend staying in the city 😀😀
So Nambucca will have to do for the next Hooon !
Rudy and John were both there, sharing Rudy's car. I think Rudy may have gone as low as a 51 something ?? or a very low 52 ?
John was lapping in the low 55's, to achieve a 2nd in class behind Rudy's 1st place
Will have to miss the next Porsche day , I have tickets that weekend to "MAMA MIA" and a dirty weekend staying in the city 😀😀
So Nambucca will have to do for the next Hooon !
London Bugger Seriously Crusin Dubber
164 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·
Sounds interesting, seems like you guys have alot more circuit racing events than we do here in the UK! Well dont Craig keeping the VW's up there and wiping the smiles off some of the V8 boys no doubt 😀
Are there any more details or pictures from the event? Or any other events like it?
Cheers,
Rob.
Are there any more details or pictures from the event? Or any other events like it?
Cheers,
Rob.
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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion
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Welcome London Bugger, no photo's of this weekend !! I'm sure you will see plenty after our weekend at Nambucca.
Next Oran park I would like to have incar footage !!!
:thumb What about your end , any photo's of events or car setups ??
Next Oran park I would like to have incar footage !!!
:thumb What about your end , any photo's of events or car setups ??
1303Steve Scirocco Rare
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Hi
Well done Craig, you might have to put in a 1300 box like CT & Jak, my neighbours nephew may have been out there in his Civic, I hope he got a good eyefull, he laughed when I said I was going to take my bug out for a run.
London Bugger, you read a bit about CT & Jak here,
http://www.clubvw.org.au/porsche_drivers_just_wave_you_thr.htm
http://www.clubvw.org.au/big_brother_acceptance.htm
http://www.clubvw.org.au/u_guys_in_the_vw.htm
http://www.clubvw.org.au/2_vw.htm
http://www.clubvw.org.au/ct_hansen1.htm
http://www.clubvw.org.au/instant_race_car.htm
1302Steve
Well done Craig, you might have to put in a 1300 box like CT & Jak, my neighbours nephew may have been out there in his Civic, I hope he got a good eyefull, he laughed when I said I was going to take my bug out for a run.
London Bugger, you read a bit about CT & Jak here,
http://www.clubvw.org.au/porsche_drivers_just_wave_you_thr.htm
http://www.clubvw.org.au/big_brother_acceptance.htm
http://www.clubvw.org.au/u_guys_in_the_vw.htm
http://www.clubvw.org.au/2_vw.htm
http://www.clubvw.org.au/ct_hansen1.htm
http://www.clubvw.org.au/instant_race_car.htm
1302Steve
Keith Haeusler Seriously Crusin Dubber
168 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
Craig,
A bit of topic but whats the 2E? record at Eastern creek. A mate of mine just hillclimbed his bug there and we have no idea of what times we should be aiming for. Cheers, Keith.
A bit of topic but whats the 2E? record at Eastern creek. A mate of mine just hillclimbed his bug there and we have no idea of what times we should be aiming for. Cheers, Keith.
London Bugger Seriously Crusin Dubber
164 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·
Great thanksfor the links guys, should keep me ammused for a little while 😀
Craig, Unfortunately not many people are into the circuit racing over here so there aren't really any that are setup for going round corners too well.
One of my mate tho is building a bug to be a track car and is playing with a few idea's on suspensions setups etc, I will let you guys know any developments!
Cheers,
Rob.
Craig, Unfortunately not many people are into the circuit racing over here so there aren't really any that are setup for going round corners too well.
One of my mate tho is building a bug to be a track car and is playing with a few idea's on suspensions setups etc, I will let you guys know any developments!
Cheers,
Rob.
Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion
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Now your testing the memory Keith !!
Was that Colin in his 1916cc Superbug ?
Imp Production 69.24 sec. I set the record in 2002, the only year I have run the event.:thumb
[Edited on 8-7-2003 by Craig Torrens]
Was that Colin in his 1916cc Superbug ?
Imp Production 69.24 sec. I set the record in 2002, the only year I have run the event.:thumb
[Edited on 8-7-2003 by Craig Torrens]
Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion
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More good news from the weekend, I have just looked at the results, to see I was also quicker than a 911 GT3 that was running !!!!!!!!
Rudy Frank's fastest was a blistering 51.25 !!!!
Results are on the net.
:thumb
Rudy Frank's fastest was a blistering 51.25 !!!!
Results are on the net.
:thumb
Keith Haeusler Seriously Crusin Dubber
168 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
Craig,
Thanks for that. Yes, it was Colin, i think his best run was 71. ? seconds. We`ll see how he goes next time, maybe alittle better. Cheers Keith.
Thanks for that. Yes, it was Colin, i think his best run was 71. ? seconds. We`ll see how he goes next time, maybe alittle better. Cheers Keith.
1303Steve Scirocco Rare
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Hi Craig
What is the website for NSW RRC?
1302Steve
What is the website for NSW RRC?
1302Steve
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London Bugger Seriously Crusin Dubber
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Are there specs on Rudy's car anywhere it sounds like a beast.
Rob.
Rob.
jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard
560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
This is Rudy's car rob, it's an all out sports sedan.
regards
Jak
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Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!
London Bugger Seriously Crusin Dubber
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Cheers Jak
Any info on what motor setup he has and suspension etc look like a cool piece of kit!
Rob.
Any info on what motor setup he has and suspension etc look like a cool piece of kit!
Rob.
amazer kombi pilot
3,187 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
I know exactly what you mean. I have had problems with them at huntley. Big arguments between a mirage and an excel even. Arguments over broken headlights. "he cant run in this class, its road registered, cant get rego with broken headlight...." "so what if my tyres are 45 series, the engine is standard Im in type 2" they have nearly come to blows. All for a $15 piece of plastic. Amazing.Craig Torrens wrote:The event was run by the "NSW road racing club" which comprises of members who do race for "sheep stations" (if you know what I mean!)
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard
560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
I had a similar experience a few years ago, I won my class , can't remember what it was, then the organiser called me at work & said that I had been disqualified since all the MX5 guys had protested that my car had non-factory body parts, ie: the rear wing.
I said, these are the same guys that trailered their cars to the track, run slicks & use Avgas? yet I drive to the track, had second hand street tyres & used super from the pump?
The organiser apologised many times to me so I missed out on a little trophy.
My world collapsed!! (LOL) I hop the MX5 driver that got second is proudly showing his trophy on his mantle peice!
Thats why I joined the porsche club, the people are very proffessional, no-one cares who's quickest, & I love being surrounded by Porsches. Whats better than that?
Jak
I said, these are the same guys that trailered their cars to the track, run slicks & use Avgas? yet I drive to the track, had second hand street tyres & used super from the pump?
The organiser apologised many times to me so I missed out on a little trophy.
My world collapsed!! (LOL) I hop the MX5 driver that got second is proudly showing his trophy on his mantle peice!
Thats why I joined the porsche club, the people are very proffessional, no-one cares who's quickest, & I love being surrounded by Porsches. Whats better than that?
Jak
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!
Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion
8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·
Rudy has a 1916cc engine (94x69). Carbies are 44IDF's , heads are street eliminators(I think), rockers are standard VW,cam is a Stan Pobjoy spec 37/68 cam, crank is a Stan Pobjoy Counterweighted (standard stroke), Conrods are standard VW, 30mm oil pump, standard oil cooler, and merged exhaust. 009 dizzy and Holley blue electric fuel pump.London Bugger wrote:Cheers Jak
Any info on what motor setup he has and suspension etc look like a cool piece of kit!
Rob.
The motor is very close to a Pobjoy "Steriods", with Stan doing all the machining for Rudy . Rudy is a qualified mechanic , so he puts it all together himself.
It runs on pump premium unleaded, which is claimed to be 98 octane !
The car is a Superbug , with all the interior removed, replaced with a race seat and cage !
The brakes are type 3 discs and rear drums, and the suspension is modified superbug, but still remains IRS and Strut front.(T3 torsion bars, whiteline swaybars,lowered etc)
Tyres are racing slicks on very wide rims !!
To the untrained eye the car actually looks light, but it still weighs in at well over 800Kg!
I hope this helps Rob:thumb
jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard
560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
The heads are CB Performance CNC 044 jobies with the manifolds to match, & it doesn't run on pump gas, it runs on the race gas u get from BP.
regards
Jak
regards
Jak
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!
Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion
8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·
Ummm No, it was running Shell Optimax from the "pump" (98 octane), premium unleaded, the same fuel I was using.jakriz wrote:The heads are CB Performance CNC 044 jobies with the manifolds to match, & it doesn't run on pump gas, it runs on the race gas u get from BP.
regards
Jak
jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard
560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
Sorry Craig, but u have been misled, it's race fuel u get from BP, $50 for 20litres when u show your cams license.
But I can only go on what I have been told, I don't test peoples fuel & it's none of my buisness what cocktail they use.
Lucky this isn't an IQ test!
But I can only go on what I have been told, I don't test peoples fuel & it's none of my buisness what cocktail they use.
Lucky this isn't an IQ test!
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!
Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion
8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·
Jak, my advice would be for you to speak to the owner of the car,like I have done, as well as the second driver, if you feel you are unable to trust my posts. :thumb
You will then need to correct your posts, unless you then doubt the owner, in which case we will all go to the Petrol station together, buy some more Optimax, and race !
And YES, I have had my fuel tested in the past by CAMS, because another competitor didn't believe the performance the 1916cc could produce , with the results confirming "pump" fuel.
P.S The compression ratio of Rudy Franks engine, as per the owner, is below 9.5:1, not exactly race fuel territory.
Hyundia Accent compression ratio= 10.0:1 , fuel requirement= Standard unleaded petrol
You will then need to correct your posts, unless you then doubt the owner, in which case we will all go to the Petrol station together, buy some more Optimax, and race !
And YES, I have had my fuel tested in the past by CAMS, because another competitor didn't believe the performance the 1916cc could produce , with the results confirming "pump" fuel.
P.S The compression ratio of Rudy Franks engine, as per the owner, is below 9.5:1, not exactly race fuel territory.
Hyundia Accent compression ratio= 10.0:1 , fuel requirement= Standard unleaded petrol
jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard
560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
Thanks Profffesssor Torrens. I thought I had talked to the owner the co-driver, their names are Phil & Neville right.? They drive a swing axle 76 beetle? I may have my wires crossed, my apologies Craig.
I'm so glad that I don't have a race car, I wouldn't want them to test my fuel that I need for the 20:1 compression that I run, but quiet, don't tell anyone, only me & the builder (thats me) know the specs.
Have fun at Raleigh Craig
regards
Jak
I'm so glad that I don't have a race car, I wouldn't want them to test my fuel that I need for the 20:1 compression that I run, but quiet, don't tell anyone, only me & the builder (thats me) know the specs.
Have fun at Raleigh Craig
regards
Jak
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!
jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard
560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
Hang on Craig, 9.5:1 compression, surely there must be some mistake, how do explain the 300degree head temps at Oran Park? or were u just telling fibs? Did u get a spec sheet when u purchased your engine or is it all top secret?
I'm running 9.0:1 compression & I rarely go over 120degrees on the track & 80degrees on the street, I'd check where u have your sender, or it could be those street eliminators, thats why no-one that does track uses them?
Just a thought.
regards
Jak
I'm running 9.0:1 compression & I rarely go over 120degrees on the track & 80degrees on the street, I'd check where u have your sender, or it could be those street eliminators, thats why no-one that does track uses them?
Just a thought.
regards
Jak
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!