auraofgabriel Commited Dubber
65 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·
I was just wondering as I was up to my armpits in sanding dust (wearing a ventilator mask!!!!) were the old Bugs (mines a 55 oval im sanding back atm) painted with a lead based paint? 🤪
Is there Lead in old Bug Paint? Hmmm
bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6
6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·
i was wondering the same thing when sanding back the 69',
but now they have realised that ur body can remove heavy metals (inc. lead and murcury) from where it settles in the brain and what not via perspiration.
Sweat it out buddy!
but now they have realised that ur body can remove heavy metals (inc. lead and murcury) from where it settles in the brain and what not via perspiration.
Sweat it out buddy!
(ô_!_/ô) (ô_!_/ô)
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
modulus Veteran Volks Folk
2,009 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
auraofgabriel Commited Dubber
65 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·
Holy crap!! I think i better be careful. the last coat of paint/primer im sanding off is orange which is the most highly concentrated lead paint according to that site (if it has lead in it)❗ Hmm a wet sanding i will go!!modulus wrote:Possibly.
See:
http://www.environment.gov.au/atmosphere/airquality/publications/autopaints.html
hth
Thanks Modulus.....i think....
auraofgabriel Commited Dubber
65 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·
then im off to the steam room!!! 😂 😵💫bajachris88 wrote:i was wondering the same thing when sanding back the 69',
but now they have realised that ur body can remove heavy metals (inc. lead and murcury) from where it settles in the brain and what not via perspiration.
Sweat it out buddy!
LUFTMEISTER Veteran Volks Folk
2,041 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·
nearly all old auto paints have lead in them (helps with adhesion and coverage). reds and yellows have more. you can buy test strips from paint shops. if they do not have lead they have know cancer agents (especilly 2 packs).
know your dangers then take protection. 👍
know your dangers then take protection. 👍
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auraofgabriel Commited Dubber
65 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·
Ive wet mopped and wet wiped AND wet sanded (the car!!). Its all got to do with the wet to stop lead being airbourne in sanding dust and being breathed in. THEN you have to dispose of the wet mop water in a sealed bucket somewhere??? 🙁
68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --
11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
auraofgabriel wrote:Ive wet mopped and wet wiped AND wet sanded (the car!!). Its all got to do with the wet to stop lead being airbourne in sanding dust and being breathed in. THEN you have to dispose of the wet mop water in a sealed bucket somewhere??? 🙁
Wow
I'm just hoping that German white enamel had no lead in it at all.. lol...
and i bare metalled the rear engine tin last week...
and hosed the "dust" off with the hose....!!
and a few weeks before that i bare metalled all My engine tinware.. and hosed the concrete.....[!!}
Years ago...
You could buy "RED LEAD" which was a rust stopping orange paint...
and back then.. painting it on with a brush etc...
and getting it on your skin etc...
was normal...
Lee
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---
The Bigfella Officially Full-On Dubber
284 posts · joined Sep 2007 ·
I bought 4 litres of red lead for the boat about 3 years ago. I believe its no longer available from that company.
rob53 Officially Full-On Dubber
385 posts · joined Jan 2007 ·
I was told that the rust proofing on the metal was chromium back then, don't know if it's true though.
Thats not rust, it's ah ... orange primer ... yep that's what it is ...
auraofgabriel Commited Dubber
65 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·
Well i justpent $30!!!! on a lead test kit from bunnings and tested the old beast. The first time it came up clean (no lead) so they give you a strip of paper with lead in it (nice of them really dont you think? if you dont get lead poisoning from the car paint they'll get you with the test paper!!🤪) to test if the TEST isnt faulty. And lo and behold... it turned pink (no my car is NoT pregnant!!!) so the test wasn't faulty. So i did it AGAIN cause i didnt belieive it the first time. Still no Lead second time around either. Phew. Strange really.... i was sure it would of had lead in it..... Makes me feel bit relieved though.👍
68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --
11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Good news
I didn't really think car enamel had any lead in it
the only one I've ever heard was dangerous was 2 Pak
when it was being sprayed...
Lee
I didn't really think car enamel had any lead in it
the only one I've ever heard was dangerous was 2 Pak
when it was being sprayed...
Lee
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---
frenzix Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,742 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·
led is good for you anyway, we don't get enough of it nowaways
helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body
7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
Get some lead in your pencil.
frenzix wrote:led is good for you anyway, we don't get enough of it nowaways
auraofgabriel Commited Dubber
65 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·
helbus wrote:Get some lead in your pencil.
frenzix wrote:led is good for you anyway, we don't get enough of it nowaways
Nice nice 😁 haha. Bring it down to the gutter, thats the spirit. OK enough already bout the lead thing I guess. I saved all you guys $30!!!! 🙄
LUFTMEISTER Veteran Volks Folk
2,041 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·
Aust Govt fact sheet
Fact sheet - lead alert facts: lead in auto paints
Many auto paints, particularly those on older vehicles, are high in lead and can be a health hazard.
There have been cases of children suffering lead poisoning from playing in soil contaminated by auto paint dust.
Vintage car enthusiasts and amateur car restorers who strip and paint cars in their own garages or backyards could be unwittingly creating health risks for themselves, their families and neighbours.
The dangers of lead in auto paints
Lead enters the body when fine particles of lead in dust are swallowed, or when fumes or dust from synthetic enamels and lacquers from aerosols are breathed in. Dust generated by sanding and buffing is a major risk. It can settle in soil or household dust and become a constant health risk.
The use of high lead paints by commercial auto repairers and spray painters should be done in compliance with occupational health and safety regulations.
Lead in auto paints
Lead pigments
Lead colouring agents have been used for many years in auto enamels and lacquers. The highest levels of lead are found in the orange, red and yellow tones, where concentrations of more than 20% are common.
The pigments used in these highly coloured paints are based on lead sulphochromate and molybdate lead chromate. They are opaque and can be ground into fine particles, making them ideal for the high-gloss paints used on cars. They are also durable and resistant to ultra-violet light.
For older cars, the refinish industry can only provide accurate colour matches to vehicles that currently have paint containing lead on them by using the same lead-based pigments. If you are using these products you should be careful when sanding-down old paints and when spraying with new ones. Some older cars may also contain lead auto-body filler.
Lower concentrations of lead are present in the greens, browns and beiges.
Lead driers and anti-corrosives
Auto paints may also contain lead in the form of lead driers (at levels up to 0.5% by weight). They are used on trucks and commercials, and in anti-corrosive pigments in some primers used on new cars.
Aerosol cans
Many of the paints sold in aerosol cans as touch-up paints contain lead. These spray packs are used by car owners to camouflage small areas of damage.
A major problem with these spray paints is that people often apply them to objects other than their cars, for example, to household goods, furniture and buildings. They should be used only for their prime purpose, that is, touching-up cars.
Fact sheet - lead alert facts: lead in auto paints
Many auto paints, particularly those on older vehicles, are high in lead and can be a health hazard.
There have been cases of children suffering lead poisoning from playing in soil contaminated by auto paint dust.
Vintage car enthusiasts and amateur car restorers who strip and paint cars in their own garages or backyards could be unwittingly creating health risks for themselves, their families and neighbours.
The dangers of lead in auto paints
Lead enters the body when fine particles of lead in dust are swallowed, or when fumes or dust from synthetic enamels and lacquers from aerosols are breathed in. Dust generated by sanding and buffing is a major risk. It can settle in soil or household dust and become a constant health risk.
The use of high lead paints by commercial auto repairers and spray painters should be done in compliance with occupational health and safety regulations.
Lead in auto paints
Lead pigments
Lead colouring agents have been used for many years in auto enamels and lacquers. The highest levels of lead are found in the orange, red and yellow tones, where concentrations of more than 20% are common.
The pigments used in these highly coloured paints are based on lead sulphochromate and molybdate lead chromate. They are opaque and can be ground into fine particles, making them ideal for the high-gloss paints used on cars. They are also durable and resistant to ultra-violet light.
For older cars, the refinish industry can only provide accurate colour matches to vehicles that currently have paint containing lead on them by using the same lead-based pigments. If you are using these products you should be careful when sanding-down old paints and when spraying with new ones. Some older cars may also contain lead auto-body filler.
Lower concentrations of lead are present in the greens, browns and beiges.
Lead driers and anti-corrosives
Auto paints may also contain lead in the form of lead driers (at levels up to 0.5% by weight). They are used on trucks and commercials, and in anti-corrosive pigments in some primers used on new cars.
Aerosol cans
Many of the paints sold in aerosol cans as touch-up paints contain lead. These spray packs are used by car owners to camouflage small areas of damage.
A major problem with these spray paints is that people often apply them to objects other than their cars, for example, to household goods, furniture and buildings. They should be used only for their prime purpose, that is, touching-up cars.
Customer service is not dead in Australia.
Always after HAZET & MATRA & VW factory tools
Always after HAZET & MATRA & VW factory tools