I've given up on the 1914 and have decided to go the turbo or blower. I would rather try a blower due to the slightly less problems with heat. However either will do in the end. Is anybody running either setup although I'm swinging to the hair drier type blower. I'm over the big bore or stroker engine with twin carbs and want to do something different. I am involved in engineering in the aviation industry an would love nothing more than to design and build something and give it a go, although I don't want to re-invent the wheel. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. I'll also be doing it without spending a squillion dollars.
See, I can be serious...but man have I got a headache😀
A jap blower will be the easiest and cheapest.
Just might be tricky getting it to fit under the lid.
For neatness and out right power a turbo would be hard to beat!
Then again - i am a dual carb man. What would i know!
Futue te ipsum!!!
C'mon Blue You know I didn't mean to offend anyone.😀
Go for the blower... power where you need it.
kafer69 wrote:C'mon Blue You know I didn't mean to offend anyone.😀
Quite the opposite
I wish i had the umph to do a blower or turbo.
Sock crank and duals ie the easy way
😀Futue te ipsum!!!
I used to run a 1776 with a turbo in a Beetle a few years back,
I ran the turbo out of the engine bay (no heat problems) beside the gearbox with the intercooler on the other side.
I got Instant boost as quick as you floored the pedal, you were back in the seat. It only reved to 5000 rpm.
I drove it to Willow Bank in QLD in 1995 and ran 13.5
@103 mph over the 1/4, in a full weight car with radials, (even the spare), and drove it home again over 2000 km and got 28-30 mpg.
Quiet a bit of work making it all fit, but it was nice to drive.
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Dave your the type of person I need to talk to do you have any pics or info on what you had ie type of turbo waste gate comp ratio etc. thanks😀
I guess it was blow thru as well I prefer the draw thru.
[Edited on 9-7-2003 by kafer69]
Why would you prefer draw through?:o
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Turbos were made to Blow through not suck
only americans build Turbos engine with Suckers.
Dave
what happened to the car?
Why would you get rid of it??
Futue te ipsum!!!
Hi
Here is a picture of Daves motor that I scanned from a magazine article.
1302Steve
dave i rode in a sky blue notch that had on of your turbo's in it
i still remember being blasted back inot my seat, but boy it was noisy
when i find a dmtt i'll be calling you !!
That setup looks spectacularly neat compared to anything else i've seen. If i did anything like this thats the look i'd like.
Steven
actually, due to it 'appearing' to take up not a lot of room, whats the chances of such a setup working in a squareback?
Steven
Hi
On a sqaure back just use a TLE manifold and blow into it.
1302Steve
im in the same boat as kafer69, where do i go or who do i talk to about turbo-ing a type 1.
wat dave had looked and sounds like it was awesome, dave, can u giv me anymore info on this setup?
greatly appreciated
sam
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One man's junk...
I was under the impression pressurising the carb on a vw was not the best. However after seeing your setup and how neat it is I think blow threw is the way to go. What about centrifugal blowers anybody got info or thoughts on that. Any info on Daves setup would be great.
It is kind of hard to give info, as I made it all, The turbo was an IHI RHB6 with intergral wastgate, (Steve runs one of these too).
The intercooled I had was an alloy Saab 900 turbo one, there are a lot better ones around now. I made all the pipe work for the exhaust and Shimmo made the inlet manifold for the Weber DMTT carb. The engine was a stock camed 1776
with a counterweighted crank and 6.7 to 1 compression.
I later changed to a mild Pauter cam, 044 heads and EFI, but it didn't make much more power.
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there's a guy from Dalby with a yellow kalita buggy and a home made turbo 1600. turbo came from a ford transit van I think, blow through carb design. Real low budget stuff, but it works.
Brad knows more about it than me, because he has just finished writing an article on it for the limited run "Manx Mania Magazine" that we are producing.
I used to be a dreamer with no vw back in the days of australian vw mags, and Dave's car was one of the vw's I admired. That engine pic posted above is burned in my memory 😀
Wes -
www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control...
🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.
Thanks Dave, I've only seen the pic posted earlier but sounds just what i'm after. Having done it your self must have also made it that much more sweeter.:thumb:thumb:thumb
what about running one with twin carbs rather than a single blow thru?
will that mean major power gains, or major headaches fitting it all in?
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Hi
Turboing or supercharging is not something you go into without talking to a lot of people, gathering opinions and thoughts, thanks for putting up with me years ago Dave. Dave, Chris, Shimo & Iain Halls all inspired me, I remember Daves car at the drags running very sweetly and quietly, the above guys broke ground where the yanks feared to tread.
You will also need some basic skills in fabrication or cheap access to someone who does. I dont beleive anyone could sit here and write the answers to every problem that you will come accross, the best thing to do is ask your questions in an open forum like this so that everyone can benifit and learn, also if you can get to Nambucca or any other VW show, talk to people who have done it, most are willing to share information.
1302Steve
Or you could buy the engine and Turbo from me and then put it in.......:thumb
Or you could split the engine and turbo and I might be interested in just the turbo😀
