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h fractals - an ever changing lifestyle

7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#645738
hey all..

details -paul, brisbane,
contact me via pm pls


im a lookin for a tandem car trailer in good order for my 54 beetle pls
the cheaper the better and its ok if it may need a bit of fabrication work yeah
regoed pref and be at least 2000kg rated..
let me know if ya see some about taa
cheers paul
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Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#645842
why on earth do you want a tandem to move a VW ?

Haveing both a Tandem and a single axle I would never take the tandem over the single unless I was moving something real heavy. A single is easier to tow and move around not to mkention usually lighter.

Just my $0.02 worth but have a look around at what all the VW boys have that tow lots and we all have single axle trailers.



Brad
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subisupa Seriously Crusin Dubber

135 posts · joined Aug 2007 ·

#645876
Brad that is a great size trailer you have there

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#645901
Hi Brad

I agree single axles are much better to tow.

Are you allowed to tow trailer with that much load on it in Qld? I imagine the 2 Bajas would weigh a similar amount?

Steve

My mates trailer that I regularly borrow

The Bigfella Officially Full-On Dubber

284 posts · joined Sep 2007 ·

#645905
Yeah - I looked for a single axle to hire when I went up to Lismore to pick up the Beetle from Dub74L a couple of weeks back, but couldn't find one. I almost fitted a couple of planks to my old boat trailer for the job. I'll be rebuilding the boat trailer soon, so will make it dual purpose when I do - single axle, VW and boat (which is a 3.8m Markham Whaler power catamaran).

h fractals - an ever changing lifestyle

7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#645952
cheers for ya tips yeah..
however a few points come to mind..
i will be doing long hauls with it so if a flat happens 3 wheels are better than one
resale is always a factor for me
2t rating means just about anything can be lugged on it so not just exclusively for the vw breed..
taa h
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colin Fahrvergnugen

984 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#645963
h.

Get a tandem car trailer fullstop.

Better resale value ,larger carrying capacity,safer,especially if you get a blow out at 100klicks.

How much do you value your car? .

Cheers Col

Adsman Officially Full-On Dubber

393 posts · joined Jan 2007 ·

#646068
Depends on your needs. I bought a tandem axle trailer with sides, so I can carry dirt and rubble as well. Approx 7m x 2.5m weights 800kg, carry mass of 2.5 tonne. Easy to resell as they will even carry 4wds.
What my garage isn't messy........Well chaos is a form of order isn't it?

Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#646105
your call but just a few more points..

My single axle car trailer carries 2 Tonne .. don;t forget 2 Tonne is the max you can have with a normal hitch setup and single axle brakes, so if yourtrailer weighs 600 kg then you can only carry 1400 kg anyway. My trailer weighs 425 kg and has a 2 Tonne rated axle on it.

I have had a flat when towing a kombi at 110 kmph .. it pulled like a flat I pulled over and changed it.. didn't feel dangerous etc. There is a LOT less wear on a single axle trailer tyre than there is on a tandem, not to mention bearings.

Resale ?? WTF ??? I bet I can sell my single axle car trailer for more than it owes me and I bet I could sell my tandem for less than it owes me.

Size is what will stop you carrying a lot of things and most things you cant legally Tow, what is your tow vehicle and its capacity ?

Adsman - a 7m trailer with a 2.5 tonne carry capacity weighing 800 kg mmmm so it has axles that can hold 3.3 Tonne, electric brakes on all wheels and is towed with something bigger than my 80 series landcruiser.. do tell ? Seems like a lot for a tandem for normal use. I am guessing you tow it with a truck ??

As I said it is your call but I just thought i would offer some input as if you wanna tow VW's cheaply then a single will be much better for you.
Brad
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#646116
Hi

Towing a VW on trailer needs some thought as well, it depends on the trailer construction as to where the axle is. On my friends single axle trailer that I borrow, a Beetle or any rear engined vehicle tows better with the car on backwards.

I've done some high speeds with a car on this trailer it has light truck tyres on it which are just about bullet proof, even when towing with my Prado, a 4 wheel trailer I've used pushes it around.

Steve

Adsman Officially Full-On Dubber

393 posts · joined Jan 2007 ·

#646132
As I said Brad it depends on your use. Personally it suited me. I do some weekend work with it as well as jobs for my own property.
As for the tow vehicle, Nissan patrol with electric brakes (Well it was until recently, now in need on a new one) and two heavy duty axles ( approx 4 tonne carrying according to supplier). As for the hitch setup I know nothing about, its setup is like caravan. What sort of setup should it have for over 2 tonne rating? Mine is currently as built in NSW for QLD.

Fully agree on the point about tyre wear and certainly ease of maneuvering around the back of a house. Dual wheels take patience to reverse. Large trailers up here are hard to get and sell very quickly, must be different in Brisvegas.

As Brad said definately check the LEGAL TOWING CAPACITY of your vehicle I cannot stress this enough. Also something to think about is most vehicle manufacturers state the max towing capacity with electric brakes not hydraulic overriders. Also depending on the vehicle they can be moded and blue plated to a higher capacity. (Often brakes and suspension mods.) If only towing VW's then go for the single axle, as Brad stated they are cheaper to run.
hope this clears thing up a bit...

Buggy Brad wrote:your call but just a few more points..

My single axle car trailer carries 2 Tonne .. don;t forget 2 Tonne is the max you can have with a normal hitch setup and single axle brakes, so if yourtrailer weighs 600 kg then you can only carry 1400 kg anyway. My trailer weighs 425 kg and has a 2 Tonne rated axle on it.

I have had a flat when towing a kombi at 110 kmph .. it pulled like a flat I pulled over and changed it.. didn't feel dangerous etc. There is a LOT less wear on a single axle trailer tyre than there is on a tandem, not to mention bearings.

Resale ?? WTF ??? I bet I can sell my single axle car trailer for more than it owes me and I bet I could sell my tandem for less than it owes me.

Size is what will stop you carrying a lot of things and most things you cant legally Tow, what is your tow vehicle and its capacity ?

Adsman - a 7m trailer with a 2.5 tonne carry capacity weighing 800 kg mmmm so it has axles that can hold 3.3 Tonne, electric brakes on all wheels and is towed with something bigger than my 80 series landcruiser.. do tell ? Seems like a lot for a tandem for normal use. I am guessing you tow it with a truck ??

As I said it is your call but I just thought i would offer some input as if you wanna tow VW's cheaply then a single will be much better for you.
What my garage isn't messy........Well chaos is a form of order isn't it?

h fractals - an ever changing lifestyle

7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#646162
cheers for your input guys n gals..
i am looking at both at the mo
my T4 diesel will be pulling the trailer then soon a T5 will do the work
for me the beetle and bays will be trucked around, but for me resale in a hurry is an issue (if ever needed) and i feel a tandem will sell without a prob if i need cash fast yeah..
cheers for you thoughts and input again
i value the argument and debate heaps
btw i have a set up 8x5 box trailer that can carry my motorbikes also, so a straight car carrier will do sweetly yeah
taa paul
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Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#646167
I think enough has been said but I will offer one last point.

If you buy a Tandem Axle for say $2000 - $2500 which is about he going price for one which needs a little love but is solid and you needed to sell it in a hurry you would get $1200 - $1500.

If you buy a single axle for say $1000 - $1500 which is about what they go for and need to sell it in a hurry you would get $1000 plus just as if not quicker.

And if you are selling it in a hurry then the less money you have to loose the better as that is why most people sell.

So in short I think buying a tandem because you want to be able selll it in a hurry is a very .. small we say weird arguemnet and I don;t think it should rate as a reason to buy or not buy a trailer of one style or another.

Anyway good luck, finding a good trailer of any sort is often a lot harder than you think.
Brad
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V Wreck Commited Dubber

65 posts · joined Apr 2008 ·

#646228
4 wheeled trailers are better to reverse with and dont sway as much as 2 wheeled , but like everyone else said why bother if it is going to be so small
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h fractals - an ever changing lifestyle

7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#647512
hey all
cheers for your input big time..
i value and appreciate your points of view..
well lucks a fortune and i have secured a trailer to suit my needs and expectations thus = happy days!!
its brand spanking new and the $ i paid well frankly i could not of made it and why would you bother for the outlay i shelled out as the fellow needed $ in a super hurry..
all i have to do is get it regoed.. schweet!
it is a tilt tandem trailer and it'll will be super sweet for my low little beetle and others..
it'll be at Valla if ya wanna lookisee if thats ur thing..
cheers again..
pauly
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bushed Wolfsburg Elder

3,541 posts · joined Dec 2006 ·

#647514
btw who insures the trailers ??
tried racq ...no go suncorp no


blow out on a tandem with a fully fitted Bay camper on it ...no probs at 90 kms/hr plus i love my tandem disk brakes nice.
but very litlle use atmo
want any vw bits old but like me, Made in Germany!!!

h fractals - an ever changing lifestyle

7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#647515
hey bern you coming down to valla my friend.. my new tandem brother.. i know its late!! hehe
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bushed Wolfsburg Elder

3,541 posts · joined Dec 2006 ·

#647519
just back from Sydney
u wanna loan it? 12 months reg just paid
2 spares led tails big dolly

email me dates etc
want any vw bits old but like me, Made in Germany!!!

h fractals - an ever changing lifestyle

7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#647522
bern nah i have my own trailer now.. cheers all the same
i really hope to see you at valla mate for more than an hour or so like last time..
i have a spare bunk in the cabin if you need.. let me know
hear from you pauly
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bushed Wolfsburg Elder

3,541 posts · joined Dec 2006 ·

#647524
cheers Paul been a bit off colour early his year and a busy 4 months.
would love to come down. Thanx for the offer...I will let you know when I know dates...as i said been on the rd (last 11 days)
want any vw bits old but like me, Made in Germany!!!

h fractals - an ever changing lifestyle

7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#647528
bern take it easy and keep well.. hope to see ya @ the big V!
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Tonz Magonz Officially Full-On Dubber

201 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#647585
Paul,
Are you able to post pics of your new trailer.Interested in one myself..Light and low.

Cheers Tony

phatratpat Fahrvergnugen

958 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#647641
h wrote:bern take it easy and keep well.. hope to see ya @ the big V!

you two should get a room...OH ! I see you already have ! !😊

h fractals - an ever changing lifestyle

7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#647684
phatratpat wrote:
h wrote:bern take it easy and keep well.. hope to see ya @ the big V!

you two should get a room...OH ! I see you already have ! !😊
wtf.. lay off the green man you make no mojo.. 😂
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h fractals - an ever changing lifestyle

7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#647686
see how this pic goes..
if not i'll get some up soon yeah..
cheers paul

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