Valve Guides and Piston Rings

trickysimon 100km/h is only 9 seconds away

1,473 posts · joined Dec 2007 · 17 Jun 2008, 6:34 pm

#652423

Will be pulling the 1600DP in my beetle for the first time in a few weeks to replace the rings and valve guides in the heads. Bought the rings last night but have no idea about valve guides. Could anybody give me a rough estimate on how much it will cost to replace the valve guides in two heads. Will I need to get a valve grind as well? Anything else?
Feel free to give me some hints on pulling engine out and heads off as it will be my first time 😏

Simon

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 18 Jun 2008, 8:57 am

#652556

When ever the guides are replaced the seats will need re-cutting
because they are never in the exact same centre line afterward.

Make sure you use new exhaust valves too.

A quality engine/cylinder head shop can put a bronze liner("K-Line") in your present guides
to stop the removal of head material when your old guides come out.

Don't know costs but shop around, and ask for quotes is a good plan,
and new complete heads may be more affordable.

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

trickysimon 100km/h is only 9 seconds away

1,473 posts · joined Dec 2007 · 18 Jun 2008, 5:17 pm

#652601

🙄 Didn't think it would be that expensive lol. Any idea on how much new heads are? Could I buy bare heads and use the parts off my current heads? Would there any benefit from getting large valve heads?

Simon

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1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 · 20 Jun 2008, 1:12 pm

#652914

i've puchased brand new vw heads from CB performance in the states they were $144 each plus shipping. http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=569
Damo.

This is my Volkswagen, there are many like it, but this one is mine. Without me my Volkswagen is useless, without my Volkswagen, I am useless.

61 Karmann Ghia 2110cc type1 w Los Panchito's
66 Deluxe Beetle 2270 type 4
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trickysimon 100km/h is only 9 seconds away

1,473 posts · joined Dec 2007 · 20 Jun 2008, 4:03 pm

#652933

What sort of price would I be looking at for shipping. Never bought anything from overseas before so would I need to worry about customs and what not? Are the heads good quality?
Simon

trickysimon 100km/h is only 9 seconds away

1,473 posts · joined Dec 2007 · 20 Jun 2008, 7:39 pm

#652990

While on CB I spotted these babies: http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=1470
Would these be good for a stock engine with standard 34 pict 3 and a single quiet pack?
Simon

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1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 · 20 Jun 2008, 8:32 pm

#653020

its possible to use them but i would change the cam to a better grind above stock to fully make use of the larger valves. Shipping won't be that much and don't worry about customs i bought in $1200 worth of parts from CB and they turned up at my door no problem. It's only if a single part is over $1k that they start charging. If you order on Monday they could be at your place Friday, has happened many times to me when i have ordered from CB.

This is my Volkswagen, there are many like it, but this one is mine. Without me my Volkswagen is useless, without my Volkswagen, I am useless.

61 Karmann Ghia 2110cc type1 w Los Panchito's
66 Deluxe Beetle 2270 type 4
10 Subaru WRX Impreza

trickysimon 100km/h is only 9 seconds away

1,473 posts · joined Dec 2007 · 20 Jun 2008, 8:41 pm

#653026

Better cam would be great but don't have the time money or experience to split the case. 🥲 Would there be any improvement over stock heads with a stock cam? Might not even need new heads, might just be the rings. Will have to see when I pull the heads off.

Hopefully one day I will be able to build a RAT Type 4 like yours 😀
Simon