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How hard is it to replace door window scrappers ?

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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#656860
It's all relative Craig.

How long is a piece of string? Thats what I want to know!
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Adsman Officially Full-On Dubber

393 posts · joined Jan 2007 ·

#656862
simple answer Matberry

A piece of string is precisely twice half its length

😂
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Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#656863
not really hard more fiddly. Then again it can be done. Allow an hour each side and you will be right
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

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#656865
Buggy Brad wrote:not really hard . Allow an hour each side and you will be right
😂😂😂😂😂
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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#656866
Easy, I will just buy new rubbers and scrappers, and allow 2 hours !

I now it only takes 15mins to remove.

Cheers Brad

Craig t


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4,980 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#656867
Buggy Brad wrote:not really hard more fiddly. Then again it can be done. Allow an hour each side and you will be right
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Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#656870
matberry wrote:
Buggy Brad wrote:not really hard . Allow an hour each side and you will be right
😂😂😂😂😂
Why is that funny ?

Get out screw driver, tape shaft so no damage to paint
Remove door trim
Remove two 10mm bolts that hold window channel
Drop window into door shell
Remove old inner scraper
Remove old outer scraper
Fit new outer scraper
Fit New inner scraper
dry lube scrapers
Lift up window
Re-install 10mm bolts
wind up window to test
re-fit door card

yeah it can be a PITA which is why you drop the glass. Depending on the model you may need to drop the 1/4 out but most of the time the beetles are fine.
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#656872
Sorry Brad, now you put it like that, it doesn't sound funny, but very easy.
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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#656874
Its a 68 beetle Brad.

Do I need to remove the channels the window runs up on the door frame as well as the quarter frame one ?

From memory they have PITA clips that hold them in ?

Matberry, have you done it before ?


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1,473 posts · joined Dec 2007 ·

#656875
After you've done yours I'll bring mine around 😂
I bought all the scrapers and started putting them in one day.
Only managed to get inside drivers on because i got too frustrated and gave up.
Simon

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#656879
Craig, its many times. 10+ years at Volksrestore, I did one or two, although my brother managed the panel section more than me.
Proceedure is important, Brads list will certainly help.
The worst part is the crap quality of most replacement parts.
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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#656882
so you should know all the tips ?

what else would you add to brads list ?


matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

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#656886
Mate that was nearly ten years ago and I'm just getting into the swing of things,+ bed time and takes way too long typing... You'll be ok, just be very carefull with new paint...

Take your time, reverse the disassembly order exactly when going back together.
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Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#656887
Ok I wasn't posting an exact how to do it and it is to damn cold for me to go outside to the shed and double check.

Yes you need to remove the bailey channel and they PITA clips are easy to remove as long as you remove them correctly and don't just rip them out. The clips are suppose to come out with the bailey channel not stay in the car. They have a retaining tab on the back that you slide up to get it out of the hole (about 5mm). You can pull the bailey out of they but they have teeth and often don't like to let go. To put them back in you clip them in and then push the bailey channel into it

As for times, I will happily do a set fot two hours labour if anyone wants to bring their car over with the correct parts. I don;t see what the big deal is, it isn't even a dirty job.

If you realy hate it then just build a buggy ...
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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#656889
hehehehe........yeah thats why i'm restoring a country buggy !!!!

I know its not a big deal....................its just I'm deciding between masking up the existing trim/scrapper (perfect condition) or remove and replace ! I really don't want to get half way through and get the SH#Ts !


matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

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#656891
How flash a paint job are you aiming for?
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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#656894
yep I'm hearing ya.................remove them 👍


1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#656898
Hi Craig

I have the perfect tool for doing this job, its a thin flexible plastic wedge, u2 me your address and I post you one. I use them for breaking into cars.

Steve

Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#656920
1303Steve wrote:Hi Craig

I have the perfect tool for doing this job, its a thin flexible plastic wedge, u2 me your address and I post you one. I use them for breaking into cars.

Steve
Can I have one too .. I like tools
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#656924
1303Steve wrote:Hi Craig

I have the perfect tool for doing this job, its a thin flexible plastic wedge, u2 me your address and I post you one. I use them for breaking into cars.

Steve
Don't U2U him your address, because then he'll come around and steal your car using his thin flexible plastic wedge 😂
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1,986 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#656944
and if you're lucky he'll fix the window as well😂

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#656946
Do i detect a little tension😂
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ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

1,986 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#656982
On building my sons baja I was more concerned over doing the door windows than anything else on the car. Wiring can get a bit annoying sometimes but taking it slowly and logically it didn't bother me, but the thought of those PITA clips and the "fragile" trim attached to the outer scraper and my short temper I expected something not nice to happen as it was I had to take two goes to get the first side done (I was replacing all rubbers and refitting all the glass) but it is fiddly to do and I wish I could have done it in an hour per side.

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#656996
Mick058 wrote:Craig, why don't you get one of the local Vee dub shops to do it?

Can't cost to much...😁
As a guide, how much did you pay to get your car done ?


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1,580 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#657023
as a guide, if every part of the car was an equivalent cost in relation to the 'size' of the job, i would of been better off buying a 2008 Ferrari.

In saying that, i hadn't the time to do the whole car myself, so i paid through the butt for the bits the shops did.
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

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#657027
Aw com'on Craig, it only takes a bit of time..... or money.... or get Brad to do it
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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#657030
don't worry Matt, I'm doing it.......................private joke with mick !