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Can you spot whats wrong with my suspension??? (photo)

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Mick058 Custom Title Time!

1,580 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#660639
Well, as some might know, i've had this painful rear end suspension issue since i got my bug on the road.
Checked shocks, removed sway-bar and then left it for a little while as i was told the car needed to settle in.
Still no good after 2 mnths or so, so due to limited resources at home i thought i'd check with a couple of the vdub shops. We went for a drive and i mentioned the bottom out/banging noise always came from the right. I was told that the rock hard feel and banging was normal due to the low stance of the car, gas shocks and wide rear tyres. So i was informed to raise the car, change the shocks and sell the wide wheels and fit 6's.
Now you can tell from the photo what the problem is/was (i hope!). Luckly i didn't do any of the above.
I know the 'experts' can't see everything and know everything, but the moral of the story is - That its your car and you probably know best as to whats normal or not. I'm just annoyed i didn't see it earlier. A simple trip up a hoist would have revealed it. Again, it's not really the shops fault they didn't see it, just make sure you go with your gut at times, to double check things.

Wonder if anyone else has similar stories?
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mackaymanx Custom Title Time!

1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·

#660642
You have double spring plates from a type 3 or Autostick. The bolt closest to the torsion housing is supposed to be short and not have a nut on it. It is meant to just screw into the trailing arm hence the annoying clunk in your rear suspension as it hits the shock absorber support.
Quote of the week
"Do I wish to send them to you again, nope, no interest can't be bothered really, to much hassle for little or no return."

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bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#660643
u can see where its been backin on ur shock absorber mount
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Mick058 Custom Title Time!

1,580 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#660646
mackaymanx wrote:You have double spring plates from a type 3 or Autostick. The bolt closest to the torsion housing is supposed to be short and not have a nut on it. It is meant to just screw into the trailing arm hence the annoying clunk in your rear suspension as it hits the shock absorber support.
yep, the other side i think is threaded
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ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

1,986 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#660652
I've found that the experts are not always "expert". Luckily you found the problem before anything serious happened. I would now rather leave my car in my garage till I've fixed it than take it to anyone else because of problems I've had in the past. BTW how does it ride now?

Mick058 Custom Title Time!

1,580 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#660654
Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better.

Can you see how much travel there was? Like 20mm...bang, bang, bang. Very annoying. Try taking a left hand turn!

We found this the same weekend we installed the kafer bar and re-torqued my now worn in (1500k's), ready to drive and scream Pobjoy engine. So i am very happy driving it at the moment.
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ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

1,986 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#660655
Bet you could kick yourself once you saw what was wrong. It always gets me when I'm looking for a problem and I try everything, then it dawns on me that it's something simple. Trouble is like you when you do several things at once and then encounter a problem you sometimes confuse yourself as to the cause.

ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

1,986 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#660657
It's all part of the fun🤪

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#660661
Hi

You must be really happy that you've found the problem, to be fair to the VW "experts" noise diagnoses can be a very difficult, even harder when the problem is incorrect assembly.

Steve

MikeM Buggy Head

1,429 posts · joined Aug 2003 ·

#660669
Mick058 wrote:can you spot the problem???
You are running drum brakes 😂

Good to hear you've found the problem. Noises can be frustrating as they only happen under load. I had a noise in the back suspension of my previous car and we found it by getting my mates to jump up and down on the rear barwork (buggy) while I had my head down listening for the source.


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megalania Insano Dub Head

722 posts · joined May 2006 ·

#660684
I can imagine that clunking sound just made you sweat everytime you heard it. I hate undiagnosable sounds coming from my car.

Mick058 Custom Title Time!

1,580 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#660688
worried things were gonna start falling off/vibrating off. I would hold my breath and grip the steering wheel everytime i saw a pot hole i couldn't avoid....aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhh BANG!!! 😂😂😂
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#660693
good to know u found it yr self yr learning Mick

as i said before to you with a new car tehre are so many things that have to be checked when assembling things
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


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Mick058 Custom Title Time!

1,580 posts · joined Jan 2008 ·

#660694
wet behind the ears but you got to start somewhere...

Was more excited when i fixed the stupid regulator and blinking faults i had. Any luck on those chrome strips? heard you can buy some 'stick on' ones (could be dodge).
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hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#660697
what did you end up doing with the sway bars?

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#660700
Mick058 wrote:...i wasn't the one who spotted it either 🤪 A mate was under there and he spotted it.
There was plenty of other things under there I spotted...... just haven't told you yet !!!😂

Glad I could help by finding the problem.😎


squizy Thinking about another dub...maybe

4,082 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#660703
😂

So you didn't drop it whilst he was under there Mick? Because that would have made a noise too.

bond Veteran Volks Folk

2,456 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#660710
squizy wrote:rnrnrnSo you didn't drop it whilsthe was under there Mick? Because that would have made a noise too.
rnrnHe was already making enough noise!
c'mon now. what you and craig get up to in your own time is really none of our business...... but thanks for sharing 🙂

nick

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#660717
So that toe sucking while I was under the car meant nothing ??? 😂


mactaylor Custom Title Time!

1,005 posts · joined Aug 2007 ·

#661034
yuck
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