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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#671144
baja burley wrote:so kadrons is the go if im gonna do some offroading??

I didn't realise you were asking about an off-roader. You will need to look at extending float bowl vents to prevent them spilling fuel into the throats of the carbys in rough conditions
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#671166
pete wood wrote:even second hand, kadrons are not cheap anymore. 🥲
just gotta know where to look
i picked up a set in perfect nick for $250 of ebay a few weeks back that only missing the T peice which i got for $5 from enzed
then about 2 weeks later another set sold for $270 in the same condition

theres a bit more work involved than just chucking a turbo on but yeah leave that one for further down the track

single carbs work well if u have good manifold heat but twins will give u better results but steer clear of the weber progressives if u can they work well but take a hell of alot of tweaking to get right

baja burley Officially Full-On Dubber

325 posts · joined Sep 2008 ·

#671318
so the progressives arnt as good as the non-progressives? i just read somewhere that progressives get better fuel economy and more drivability by only sacrificing a litlle bit of perfromance... what are idf's???? i also read that twins are no good for offroad but they didnt give reasons why. and this is why i went off em.. is this right???
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pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#671324
Have a look round the web. Do some research on Weber IDF and IDA carbs. The IDAs are essentially a racing carb, but even still. And lots of offroad cars use twins, filters can be pesky but it's nowhere near impossible. Also, it is possible to run a single IDF center mounted. This is a common baja bug setup in the states.
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#671330
I went single DRLA 45 on a 2074cc in about '86.....never again; duals, and make a remote air filter arrangement in clean air or single TB EFI, and also remote mount filter.
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#671358
pete wood wrote:fair enough. I stand corrected. Still, my $100 36IDFs are looking good. 😉
Pete, i think they were one-offs
the usual going rate for a set of K-dogs is around the $400 mark

burley the progressives work and plenty of ppl use them they can just be a right royal prick to setup and jet
and dont give the benefit as good as a single IDF or DCNF does

oh yeah keep clear of old holleys tho if u come across one they were shockers and a few have been popping up on ebay lately
2 settings - rough idle with ice or flat bickey
i didnt even bother selling one i had it went straight in the bin altho i wish now i kept the manifold

Quoll Officially Full-On Dubber

232 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#671382
"oh yeah keep clear of old holleys tho if u come across one they were shockers and a few have been popping up on ebay lately
2 settings - rough idle with ice or flat bickey
i didnt even bother selling one i had it went straight in the bin altho i wish now i kept the manifold"

Hey BugSprays are not bad, I could never understand all the hate for them I have had little to no touble with mine all these people poo pooing them and yet I made 50rwhp on a 1641 with extractors and cleaned up heads......

Compaired to the twin 40 dells I now have it was a shit load easier to get working correctly and don't talk to me about rough idel with duals lol

It is however important that they are set up correctly as decribed in the old how to hod rod your VW engine book, useing a plenum manifold is a big no no they need little to no plenum it is even stated that you should block the equaliser gap on the end castings which I did, they run better with a vac advance dizzy but a 009 will work ok too

When I first got the carb it had a plenum manifold and it run like a dog I was told by a supposed expert that "Its just the way these farking carbs are there shit throw it in the bin and get a webber."

After doing as the book said I coudlen't be more happy with how it runs now.

baja burley Officially Full-On Dubber

325 posts · joined Sep 2008 ·

#671534
righto. great info guys!! so the new idea is twin weber 36 idf's on a NON-PLENUM manifold with pod filters. what sort of money am i looking at now??
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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#671535
'Non Plenum' really only refers to centre-mount carbies... 'twin' means duals; one per side of the engine

Not sure how much money you have to play with but get a set of Kadrons, fit float bowl breathers and and see how you go... Cheaper and easier than dual Webers
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baja burley Officially Full-On Dubber

325 posts · joined Sep 2008 ·

#671686
little out of my budget i think guys but somthin of the like would be good!
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