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Its a J&S low nose, its still a mess, but there is hope!!!

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dezynablue Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Dec 2008 ·

#683974
Hi all, just wanted to say hi, just bought a new project so i thought id join up and get involved!!, its been over 16 years since i last owned a GP buggy in the UK.

Now to the project(its so exciting its like early xmas for me), I can tell its a J&S buggy, something to do with a big diamond logo on the side with a j and s inside it!!, can anyone offer more information from the pictures?, it looks like its a SWB from the weld mark behind the handbrake?

The chassis number showed it to be a 1968 which ties in with the front discs?? and the engine number shows as H1245239, which is also from the same year?

Now to the questions, do they still make this buggy?, were can i get a windscreen from?, does anyone own one of these? any information i can gather from the Gurus here would be most helpful.

Many Thanks

John

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Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#684088
Cool another buggy. If you have a look in teh Manx Club Buggy History area on www.manxclub.org there is some info on JnS buggies and their models.
Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
Meyers Manx Australia

11CAB If ya got it....Baja it

4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#684111
Well its the best looking of the JnS models with the flat bonnet.

Check out the two buggy forums for more info
65 Meyers Manx
68 Country Buggy (KO 367)
68 Country Buggy (KO 669)
68 Country Buggy (KO 789)
68 Country Buggy (KO 815)
68 Baja Bug
76 Baja Kombi Twincab

dezynablue Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Dec 2008 ·

#684119
Thanks for the links guys, soo many forums to join and read!!

Unfortunately i cant find a NSW registration history from the RTA, have yet to try VIC, WA, SA and QLD, although im not sure that even matters.

Still need to find me a Windscreen and surround if anyone has one hiding in their shed be sure to let me know!!, do you think a manx one may fit??

My aim for this old girl is to fully rebuild the chassis with some decent strength steel (50 square RHS2) and lay in a 2.5mm plate floor and then add new original front bulkhead/beam etc, find me a nice engineer fellow who appreciates buggies (im in the windsor area if anyone knows of a respectable one), get his finishing advice needed for the chassis, then move onto the Drivetrain and "fluff", im not sure of the NSW requirements but im sure they will be harsh, my aim is to get her up and rolling by june, with just the engine/electrics/etc done for xmas.

As for the body....hmmm, deep cherry red is winning at present, probably some kind of big flake old school metallic with as much clear is i can lay down. also aiming for a three seater, with a low bucket in the centre rear,leaves room either side for a subwoofer or two!!

Couple more pics attached and the colour i like too!

Also if anyone is ever in the Windsor/Vineyard area and you break down, be sure to shout out, if i cant help fix it or give you a push at least you can grab a cuppa/beer while waiting for the tow truck!!!

Cheers

John

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MR930 Wolfsburg Wizard

666 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#684131
Its a low nose J&S. I'm building one up at the moment. I do have a spare windscreen frame and I might have the glass somewhere. On mine I'm incorporating the widscreen into the front rollbar . Don't let people tell you it can't be registered , it can be if you go about it right.

ian.mezz I never said, I could write or spell

3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#684145
You should find the nice engineer fellow who appreciates buggies FIRST,🤪


My aim for this old girl is to fully rebuild the chassis with some decent strength steel (50 square RHS2) and lay in a 2.5mm plate floor and then add new original front bulkhead/beam etc, find me a nice engineer fellow who appreciates buggies (im in the windsor area if anyone knows of a respectable one), get his finishing advice needed for the chassis, then move onto the Drivetrain and "fluff", im not sure of the NSW requirements but im sure they will be harsh, my aim is to get her up and rolling by june, with just the engine/electrics/etc done for xmas.

As for the body....hmmm, deep cherry red is winning at present, probably some kind of big flake old school metallic with as much clear is i can lay down. also aiming for a three seater, with a low bucket in the centre rear,leaves room either side for a subwoofer or two!!

Couple more pics attached and the colour i like too!

Also if anyone is ever in the Windsor/Vineyard area and you break down, be sure to shout out, if i cant help fix it or give you a push at least you can grab a cuppa/beer while waiting for the tow truck!!!

Cheers

John
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dezynablue Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Dec 2008 ·

#684157
MR930 wrote:Its a low nose J&S. I'm building one up at the moment. I do have a spare windscreen frame and I might have the glass somewhere. On mine I'm incorporating the widscreen into the front rollbar . Don't let people tell you it can't be registered , it can be if you go about it right.
Feel free to PM me with your price for the screen, my out-laws live in Nabiac, they might need a visit soon!!!, also if you have any advice on doing the the registration side corectly then please do share!!, id also like to see how your incorporating the screen, sounds interesting.

I did think about finding an engineer from the start, I thought they may be put off by the current state and make my life harder!

is a youtube link to a buggy build and shows the kind of chassis modification i was looking at, if the engineer were to see the added strength and safety I thought might be more open minded?

just my 2c.....at the moment though im after a whole pocket of change before i rush in🤪

Many Thanks

John

ian.mezz I never said, I could write or spell

3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#684199
Ok see the RTA and Engineer before you spend a cent .
you also need to find out the cars identity to make sure its not on the Police Stolen list
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dezynablue Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Dec 2008 ·

#684202
Ok. thanks for the heads up Ian,

I rang the RTA, there was no records listed against the chassis or engine number for NSW, I also checked on the REVS site, nothing listed there for the chassis number, now ill speak with the police too, seeing as you brought that point up.

Has anyone dealt with a good engineer in the Sydney region or should i just try my luck from the RTA listing, i'm sure they are all profesional I guess its just finding one you can work with???

Cheers

Johnno

ian.mezz I never said, I could write or spell

3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#684209
Good to hear, now the modification have to comply to the design rules , i had a customer this year who has spent $45000 on a New Cobra kit car only to find out it does not comply with the ADRs 🤪🥲🥲.
For a engineer try Lakesedge Engineering services he has helped me with a few buggies.
PS You do not need a demister or heater in a buggy😂
dezynablue wrote:Ok. thanks for the heads up Ian,

I rang the RTA, there was no records listed against the chassis or engine number for NSW, I also checked on the REVS site, nothing listed there for the chassis number, now ill speak with the police too, seeing as you brought that point up.

Has anyone dealt with a good engineer in the Sydney region or should i just try my luck from the RTA listing, i'm sure they are all profesional I guess its just finding one you can work with???

Cheers

Johnno
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dezynablue Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Dec 2008 ·

#684226
Stranger and Stranger.......

Today I rang and checked with every single states Road authority as to the the previous life of the buggy, nothing was registered in any database they have access to!!!, even as the original beetle there is just a blank.

Might have to name it "stealth" and spray it matt black!, or burn it and name it a bad purchase, 🥷

Cheers

John

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#684392
I'll PM you the name of an Enginner who can help you out. he lives just round the corner from you. 🥷

BTW, there's a few of us who'd like to take a mould off your bonnet. 😏
"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

ang3lsholocaust Custom Title Time!

1,014 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#684417
dezynablue wrote:Stranger and Stranger.......

Today I rang and checked with every single states Road authority as to the the previous life of the buggy, nothing was registered in any database they have access to!!!, even as the original beetle there is just a blank.

Might have to name it "stealth" and spray it matt black!, or burn it and name it a bad purchase, 🥷

Cheers

John
I think if it's been out of rego for more then 7 years, the records get wiped out of the RTA files?

Did you get my U2U?

dezynablue Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Dec 2008 ·

#684423

I think if it's been out of rego for more then 7 years, the records get wiped out of the RTA files?

Did you get my U2U?

That makes sense as to why no-one can trace it, thanks for the engineers name as well, I sent him an email.

Also thanks Pete for the engineers details close to me!!, ill send him an email too, cant hurt to get lots of advice I guess.

As for taking a mold, im sure that will be fine, ill ask my brother in law the best way to go about it, he has been a fibreglasser for years, if anyone knows, he will. Having a proper long lasting mold about would be handy for all us J&S owners, ill use the copy myself and keep the original "plug" safe somewhere.

Going to start her up today, get a feel for the motor before I pull it out and strip her down to bare chassis.

Cheers

John

ian.mezz I never said, I could write or spell

3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#684436
dezynablue wrote:

I think if it's been out of rego for more then 7 years, the records get wiped out of the RTA files?

Did you get my U2U?

That makes sense as to why no-one can trace it, thanks for the engineers name as well, I sent him an email.

Also thanks Pete for the engineers details close to me!!, ill send him an email too, cant hurt to get lots of advice I guess.

As for taking a mold, im sure that will be fine, ill ask my brother in law the best way to go about it, he has been a fibreglasser for years, if anyone knows, he will. Having a proper long lasting mold about would be handy for all us J&S owners, ill use the copy myself and keep the original "plug" safe somewhere.

Going to start her up today, get a feel for the motor before I pull it out and strip her down to bare chassis.

Cheers

John
that sounds about rite from the RTA so it will be regoed as a 1968 Volkswagen unknown.
best to talk to a engineer . two of us just put Subaru turbo motors in our Beetles and one in a buggy ,no prob with the engineer as we talkd to him before we started our projects and we did what he told us to do.
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liam66 Officially Full-On Dubber

260 posts · joined Oct 2005 ·

#685383
I've done the same thing, everyone said wasn't possible. Was possible, just difficult.
Must be something in the water- lots of J and S buggies around Windsor and Blacktown. I'm putting a subaru Turbo motor in one now (Kings Park). I'm out there today (sunday 21 dec)if you want to come for a look or get the low down on engineering. Liam 0414 652769

OZ Towdster Keen to finish some projects

1,921 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#685390
Welcome to the nut house .
You will also notice on the other two forums that we are both having a weekend at Stockton Dunes near newcastle in the early new year , it would be great to see you there even without the car , usually plenty of spare seats etc .
Would obviosly be a good opertunity to see a few other peoples rides too and how they have done stuff etc.

Andrew
Don't let body work get in the way of real suspension travel

dezynablue Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Dec 2008 ·

#685631
liam66 wrote:I've done the same thing, everyone said wasn't possible. Was possible, just difficult.
Must be something in the water- lots of J and S buggies around Windsor and Blacktown. I'm putting a subaru Turbo motor in one now (Kings Park). I'm out there today (sunday 21 dec)if you want to come for a look or get the low down on engineering. Liam 0414 652769
Awesome to hear others have succeeded, kinda dissapointed i missed coming out to see your project but let me know anytime your next out there, ill do my best to get down to KP.

Also thanks for the contact no, will call soon

John

dezynablue Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Dec 2008 ·

#685632
OZ Towdster wrote:Welcome to the nut house .
You will also notice on the other two forums that we are both having a weekend at Stockton Dunes near newcastle in the early new year , it would be great to see you there even without the car , usually plenty of spare seats etc .
Would obviosly be a good opertunity to see a few other peoples rides too and how they have done stuff etc.

Andrew
Sounds like a fun day out!, ill go to the other forums to find the days, I know my buggy wont be ready but maybe i can give the range rover a work out!!, I know my son will love to see all the buggies, his favourite cars are American muscle cars of the 60-70s, but ill slowly try and convert him!

Cheers

DB