Intermitent wiper setup

NigeType3 Officially Full-On Dubber

371 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 5 Jul 2005, 4:49 pm

#380335

Has anyone put a intermitent wiper setup in there car?
I remember 15 years ago you could buy a universal kit for seventies cars that didn't have it. Complicated little buggers to wire up but they worked.
Dose anyone know of such a thing exists at all from say repco or some of the other car places.
I getind a sore arm turning the wipers on and of all the time its realy sh*ting me off.

Thanks in advance Nige

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1,945 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 5 Jul 2005, 7:25 pm

#380441

I have been thinking about this too, I think jaycar may have a kit? Otherwise you could just get a module from another car at the wreckers and adapt it somehow..

Jon

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3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 5 Jul 2005, 7:31 pm

#380447

I've seen a variable dial set up from an early 80s S[t]igma used in a VW before. It has a wind up reisistor that doesn't make the wiper intermittent but slow thru to medium, then two clicks for the normal 2 speed.

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1,036 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 5 Jul 2005, 8:43 pm

#380517

I think jaycar has it. I'll have to look at the catalog though.

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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 5 Jul 2005, 10:14 pm

#380601

Hi

I fitted a factory one to my yellow bug, it used a Golf 1 relay (pn# 111 955 531) and the later style beetle wiper switch.

Steve

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2,128 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 5 Jul 2005, 11:58 pm

#380684

How late is the later style Steve ?

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 6 Jul 2005, 9:01 am

#380737

Hi

Wiper switch on the steering column, 72 or later. Some of the original switches dont have the extra wire fitted, all new switches have the extra wire, some even have a 12 volt out that operates when you pull on the wiper switch, ideal for electric washers.

Steve

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8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 15 Sep 2006, 9:01 pm

#534563

Hi

Found this on the Hella site and bought one, they retail for about $100. Or visit the site http://db.hella.com.au/cgi-bin/catalogue.pl?flcmd=preview&flmaint=365

Steve

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1,448 posts · joined Nov 2005 · 16 Sep 2006, 1:24 am

#534657

The Fiat 2300S has a switch like an old style headlight dipper switch on the floor beside the left foot. A press of the button causes one sweep of the wipers at slow speed. To hold the button down causes them to sweep continuously until the button is released. My passengers used to be fascinated that the car seemed to know when to wipe the window as it used to occur randomly. I had a lot of fun telling them that the car had a sensor on the bottom of the widscreen because as I was driving my hands did not leave the steering wheel.

I have to have a soft modern steering wheel in my Manx SR and it has two horn buttons at the ends of the spokes. I am considering making one of them the horn button and the other an intermittent windscreen wiper switch. I'll need to ask my engineer first.

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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 16 Sep 2006, 10:13 pm

#534944

all the beetle bodies I have seen still have the round place to screw a dipper switch...
actually one on either side..

I bought an intermittant windscreen wiper switch that has the early VW ivory knob on it...
it looks like it was made that way...
Only problem is. I don't have any paperwork or circuit diagrams etc.. for it...

I do however have another one... somewhere..
I'll have to find it and install it, before the next rainy season... lol:P:P
I haven't a clue where it is....

I did make one from a kit years ago and installed it in My L300 Mitsubishi....

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1,070 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 16 Sep 2006, 11:17 pm

#534969

http://www.apogeekits.com/windshield_wiper_control.htm 😵

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3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 29 Jan 2009, 7:05 am

#692229

I just built this circuit, and it actually works!

http://www.techlib.com/files/wiperkik.pdf

I changed some of the resistor sizes to get the timing I wanted. I am using a wiper stalk from an MX6 and wanted to use it's intermittent dial (which was 100k not 500k as on the circuit). So I changed some of the other resistor sizes and experimented with different capacitors. In the end I have intermittent adjustment from 3 to 30 seconds.

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16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 29 Jan 2009, 7:34 am

#692233

I fitted them to my 65 bug

get a 2 speed wiper from later model and a modul from a golf

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

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1,418 posts · joined Mar 2005 · 29 Jan 2009, 1:39 pm

#692297

NigeType3 wrote:Has anyone put a intermitent wiper setup in there car?
I remember 15 years ago you could buy a universal kit for seventies cars that didn't have it. Complicated little buggers to wire up but they worked.
Dose anyone know of such a thing exists at all from say repco or some of the other car places.
I getind a sore arm turning the wipers on and of all the time its realy sh*ting me off.

Thanks in advance Nige

K-Mart at Blacktown had them but that was ....er...... before 1980! I had it on a 1972 SB. The only problem fitting it was determining the "type" of electric motor on the wiper. There were two wiring setups on this switch and if you chose the wrong one there was a short circuit when it activated.

DH

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 2 Feb 2009, 5:20 pm

#693013

I went to put the circuit I posted above into my car on the weekend (I hadn't tested it in the car yet) and I found out it sucked! It sucked all my precious electrons!

I wired it into my existing wiper circuit (with the motor) which I had a 15 amp fuse on, and it blew the fuse. So I upped it to 30amp and then it worked, but whenever the little intermittent circuit triggered the relay it made everything else in the car go dim. So I figured it was a very power hungry circuit and perhaps not what I am looking for.

So I will be checking it and then trying another option...

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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 2 Feb 2009, 11:20 pm

#693112

Hi

Lucky it didn't let the smoke out of the box, you all know that its smoke that powers things not electricity.

Steve

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9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 3 Feb 2009, 4:03 pm

#693176

electrical theory of smoke by mr lucas.
its a classic i use it at work.

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lexm Commited Dubber

57 posts · joined Apr 2004 · 3 Feb 2009, 7:00 pm

#693200

Baja Wes wrote:I went to put the circuit I posted above into my car on the weekend (I hadn't tested it in the car yet) and I found out it sucked! It sucked all my precious electrons!

I wired it into my existing wiper circuit (with the motor) which I had a 15 amp fuse on, and it blew the fuse. So I upped it to 30amp and then it worked, but whenever the little intermittent circuit triggered the relay it made everything else in the car go dim. So I figured it was a very power hungry circuit and perhaps not what I am looking for.

So I will be checking it and then trying another option...

Wes
That's because of the park circuit I suspect.
In the diagram posted by 1303steve above note that term 53a is connected to 12v and term 53e is connected to the motor via the off switch. The other side of the cam switch is connected to ground and this brakes the motor to a stop. So when the wiper is parked, the slow speed terminal 53 is connected to ground via the wiper switch and cam switch contact.
To wipe intermittently you need a changeover relay to break the circuit from the switch to the wiper term 53 and connect 12v until the motor moves away from park and then restore the connection so the wiper will park again.

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7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 · 3 Feb 2009, 9:05 pm

#693229

put wiper switch on then off every so often works for me..
especially when i haven't put the rain ex on the screen then no wipers needed at all.. top stuff rain ex..

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3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 5 Feb 2009, 10:24 am

#693509

The transistor circuit that I posted even used a lot of power before I had it connected to the wipers. When I was bench testing it I used a 4amp charger and that didn't have enough power to power the circuit when it tried to trigger the relat.

I have now built a 555 timer chip circuit, set-up as an oscillator. It lets me vary the intermittent wipers between 3 and 30seconds using the MX6 stalk variable resistor. It seems more reliable in it's timing. It runs off the 4 amp charger no problems when switching the relay.

But when I connected it to the car and the wiper switch / motor, I still saw a lot of power being used when it tried to switch the relay and start the wipers moving. The lights went dim again. So I must have something not quite right in the wiper switch / wiper motor wiring.

I need to stare at the wiper switch circuit board and the schematic again. The circuit board doesn't really match this diagram.

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lexm Commited Dubber

57 posts · joined Apr 2004 · 5 Feb 2009, 11:21 am

#693513

Wes
Are you breaking the park circuit when you connect to the wipers? Read my post above.

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3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 5 Feb 2009, 2:05 pm

#693537

Lex,

I have it autoparking and have tried breaking the autoparking power with a double acting relay but it didn't do anything. The thing I don't have working is the grounding both sides of the motor when it is parked. I will play with it tonight.

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3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 5 Feb 2009, 10:10 pm

#693636

Ok, I have it all wired as per the Mazda diagram, but with a 555 timer doing the intermittent wipers, and it's working great!

The only thing I haven't quite got sorted is the windscreen washer. By the Mazda diagram it can also trip the intermittent relay, which would require a relay with two seperate activation coils or something strange??? I can probably get both circuits to trip the one relay if I use a few diodes perhaps....

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