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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#695647
Hello all,

I'm new to the Aussie VeeDub scene but now have a bug that my wife bought me for xmas. It's a 59 and pretty solid body wise so hopefully just the mechanicals to get her rolling again. Here's some piccies of saturday when she arrived.


Coming down.......


Her new home and my lovely wife!!!


and the rear end....


and one proud owner
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

Dilbert Slammed & Awesome Dubber

89 posts · joined Jul 2008 ·

#695649
i think the look on your face says it all. looks like a pretty good score 😎
what are the floorpans like?

pod i`ve got to finish this thing one day

4,980 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#695658
is this the one near albury ,you were trying to get home?? if it is ,it looks a good score👍
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#695672
Dilbert wrote:i think the look on your face says it all. looks like a pretty good score 😎
what are the floorpans like?
yup, well happy with her. The pans are totally solid from first inspection as is pretty much the whole shell plus it's got a new front beam on her. Either that or the paint has lasted very well for a 50 year old beam.

pod wrote:is this the one near albury ,you were trying to get home?? if it is ,it looks a good score
yes mate, the one from Albury. Cost a grand to get her here but looks like she is well worth it though the size of the redback i found on one of the engine was huge. mortein works well I found. think i shall be careful as i strip her down❗
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

izac Wolfsburg Wizard

508 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#695755
sweet man, looks awesome!! some ankor wax on that body would look the goods i reckon and slammed of course 😎

vwsteve karmann crazy

2,087 posts · joined Jul 2006 ·

#695761
looks like a good score, watch out for the timber chocks though, looks a bit iffy
1 1963 356b porsche coupe
2 1960 karmann ghia cab
1 1965 karmann ghia cab
1 1966 karmann cab
1 1961 split ute
1 1967 split p/van
1 1952 standard bug
1 1963 ragtop
1 1960 ragtop
2 1954 ovals
1 1956 oval baja project
1 1957 oval flying flea

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#695819
izac wrote:sweet man, looks awesome!! some ankor wax on that body would look the goods i reckon and slammed of course 😎
Cheers dude. Paint will come eventually I'm afraid. but the Rat looks funky for now 😎
rexy wrote:looks like a good score, watch out for the timber chocks though, looks a bit iffy
tis alrite. sitting on bessa blocks at the back now and axle stands at the front. Pretty solid👍
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

vickie Seriously Crusin Dubber

190 posts · joined Oct 2005 ·

#695856
what a great wife... she's a keeper....

desh Wolfsburg Wizard

463 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#695858
I'm sure you already know it but you have a very cool wife to buy you a car!


Much better than socks and hankies.
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Kind Regards
Des

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#696134
Thanks guys!! Yup, she is a great wife and likes the Beetles too 😎

she asked the other day if she is allowed to drive her when she's on the road. Cute, huh? course she can!!!
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#697397
So I decided to strip the interior and clean the boot out last nite whilst the wife was at work. I forgot to take pictures of the before but lets just say that there was a couple of vacuum bags full of dried mouse poo in there.
So the under bonnet



only a little rust arounf the tank edge and surface rust in the wheel well. Sweet.

The interior



This was gross to begine with. Redback egg sacks everywhere plus mouse poo but now just needs a wire wheeling back to metal and some rustkill paint on top.
I am amazed at how solid this 50 year old bug is. Bloody marvellous 😀
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

eraser Fahrvergnugen

970 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#697442
amazing the floorpan can still look that good, and other people see it rusted right through. nice job keep it up :P

whatnow Custom Title Time!

1,000 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#697479
that looks like a great start, i'd be happy with it. your wife is definately a keeper if she buys you cars. that pic is priceless, she looks as though she has realized just what she has done.

if you don't mind me asking, does the chassis number date it to after august 59? just asking as it looks like a '60 model to me.

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#697552
eraser wrote:amazing the floorpan can still look that good, and other people see it rusted right through. nice job keep it up :P
yep really pleased that its as solid as the previous owner said it was. time for the grinder with wire wheel 🙂
whatnow wrote:that looks like a great start, i'd be happy with it. your wife is definately a keeper if she buys you cars. that pic is priceless, she looks as though she has realized just what she has done.rnrnif you don't mind me asking, does the chassis number date it to after august 59? just asking as it looks like a '60 model to me.
yea she's great. love her to bits. as for the look it's kinda typical of women as us guys look at something thats shabby and can see how to make it better. we start making lists in our heads etc.

as for the chassis number....um where abouts is it located? been ages since i owned one and the Gregorys manual is pretty crap at detail.
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

vwsteve karmann crazy

2,087 posts · joined Jul 2006 ·

#697574
under the rear seat area, just before the gear coupling access hole, looks like a 60 to me as well, bumper overriders , steering column, raised bonnet badge area, looks like 68 on pedals put in as well,etc
1 1963 356b porsche coupe
2 1960 karmann ghia cab
1 1965 karmann ghia cab
1 1966 karmann cab
1 1961 split ute
1 1967 split p/van
1 1952 standard bug
1 1963 ragtop
1 1960 ragtop
2 1954 ovals
1 1956 oval baja project
1 1957 oval flying flea

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#697605
rexy wrote:under the rear seat area, just before the gear coupling access hole, looks like a 60 to me as well, bumper overriders , steering column, raised bonnet badge area, looks like 68 on pedals put in as well,etc
Did 60's have semaphores? The only bug I'd owned previous to this was a 73 1303 so I'm learning at present 🙂
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

VDUBXTC Tea Bag

3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#697609
Looks to have a few 60's parts on it, but i can see it still has the semaphores, so i'd say 59 body with a possible pan swap at some point?
Jasmine the 75 L Bug
56 oval, 2000 New Beetle

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#697672
well the chassis number is 197645071. Thats whats stamped by the gearchange tunnel linkage access hole.

I think the poor thing has had later parts fitted to her in the 50 years since rolling out of wolfsburg
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

vwsteve karmann crazy

2,087 posts · joined Jul 2006 ·

#697706
i recently picked up a bug i thought was a 59 but its a 60, it has semaphores in it still.
1 1963 356b porsche coupe
2 1960 karmann ghia cab
1 1965 karmann ghia cab
1 1966 karmann cab
1 1961 split ute
1 1967 split p/van
1 1952 standard bug
1 1963 ragtop
1 1960 ragtop
2 1954 ovals
1 1956 oval baja project
1 1957 oval flying flea

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#697735
well did a bit of looking around and seems as tho the chassis was built in May 59 from the 197 start of the chassis number.

So it is a 59 but with later additions. I'm not looking for original persay so a few different bits here and there is fine with me so long as i like the overall look 🙂
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

whatnow Custom Title Time!

1,000 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#697902
i'm not sure if it is a 59 pan. it has a 9 digit no instead of a 7 digit no. i would have put it as a 67 pan. i have the remains of a 67? out the back with a 197 *** *** pan no. i have seen those pedals in a 67 i had previously plus your pan has the cut outs in the sound proof tunnel mat for seat belt mount holes.

the body is certainly early and the pan looks in good nick so have fun.

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#698331
well so long as the body is mainly '59 then thats fine with me. The pan is getting IRS'd so even if it was a '59 pan it wouldn't be original for long 🙂

Got a gearbox this weekend and some spring plates so just the 'A' arms, driveshafts and then the conversion brackets and thats done. Just need some wide 5 drums with spacers and the rear is ready.
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#700205
Had a go at stripping the drivers side floor pan at the weekend and went well but did find a few holes 🙄 To be expected I s'pose but they not too bad. fab a few plates and pop em in.
some mild swiss cheese

Dead Battery tray

a reasonably clean pan


so a few plates and then a good sanding and it's ready for POR15.

Also took my good engines tinware off to find another Redback. Poor thing didn't like the bug spray 😂

Have also sourced all I need to IRS the pan so just need to find the money to pay for it now.
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

izac Wolfsburg Wizard

508 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#700270
looks good man, Penetrol works great on crusty rusty floor pans!

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#700552
izac wrote:looks good man, Penetrol works great on crusty rusty floor pans!
Whats Penetrol? moving along nicely 🙂
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#701276
Hiya,
Just wanted to let everyone watching know that progress will be very slow for the time being until i find a new job cos my boss is an arsehole!!!!

If anyone knows of work for a Control Systems engineer that would be greatly appreciated. I programme PLC's and SCADA. Very snooze worthy 🙂
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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#703086
Hiya all,

So whilst looking for work whilst still having to go to work?!?!?! go figure 🙄 I have been making some plates for the floor pan rot and starting to tear out the wiring loom. so pics of the holes and patches i made.

Drivers foot hole


Battery tray hole


Passenger 'where your bum should be' hole


and my nice plates i made with the help of works bending press 😀




trimming to size at present and then need to find/borrow/pilfer a welder or maybe just loads of arldite 🤪

Not much to show wiring loom wise but pulling the old/new one thro the roof should prove interesting......
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

OzSpeedway Casual Dubber

25 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#703088
Excellent start, pretty much the sort of starting point I want to get to (or is that from? 🙂 )

Oh, and by "Have also sourced all I need to IRS the pan so just need to find the money to pay for it now. ", can you explain what it was you sourced and from where? I'll probably be needing the same thing once I get going.....

Cheers

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#703122
OzSpeedway wrote:Excellent start, pretty much the sort of starting point I want to get to (or is that from? 🙂 )

Oh, and by "Have also sourced all I need to IRS the pan so just need to find the money to pay for it now. ", can you explain what it was you sourced and from where? I'll probably be needing the same thing once I get going.....

Cheers
Thanks dude 🙂

As for the IRS parts. I'd managed to find people that have the parts I required but now can't afford them due to job loss. If you are going to IRS your swing pan then you will need: an IRS gearbox, drive shafts with CV's, IRS torsion bars and spring plates (or modify the swing spring plates), IRS 'A'/pivot arms and last but not least the IRS brackets that are welded to the torsion tube. Good luck with it 🙂
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍