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_666_ Commited Dubber

62 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#699521
has anyone used a different gear box in their Kombi ? as i notice even the people that do convserions use the standard kombi boxes.. im interested in 5th gear for eceonomy purposes

Nick
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mnsKmobi Wolfsburg Wizard

589 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#700233
This has been discussed a few times in the past. To summarise: Don't bother! With an aircooled engine, slowing the revs reduces the cooling. With a water-cooled engine, it is easier to put bigger tyres on to change the ratios (though it does also change the speed on the speedo!)

To improve economy the traditional methods of reducing the junk you carry around and reducing your speed are the easiest methods. The next easiest is to keep the kombi in tune!

_666_ Commited Dubber

62 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#700522
well im considering a V8, but regarless i was mentioning this topic in the hopes someone had insstalled a 5 speed gearbox
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STIDUB Over it.

1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#700534
perhaps germanlook.com forums would help you, if/when they come back online that is...
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#700535
if its in a splitty then change it to IRS and get rid of the reduction hubs

If its in a Bay then you have what you have due to the weight of the vehicle reduce weight or install a more powerfull ecnomical engine

the cost of the 5 speed will be too expensive vs the engine change or reduction gearbox removal
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_666_ Commited Dubber

62 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#700608
what are the point of the reduction hubs ? wouldnt you want the bus to go faster ?
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rocknrob Insano Dub Head

844 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#700636
yes people have used different gearboxes in their kombis...porsche for example...but don't think this will be economcical...if you want economy keep the standard box and install a subaru EJ22...then you can put some taller tyres on and get 30mpg at 120km/hr🙄

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#700664
_666_ wrote:well im considering a V8, but regarless i was mentioning this topic in the hopes someone had insstalled a 5 speed gearbox
you wouldn't need a five speed for a V8, but lots of americans have done it before. this guy has a vortec supercharged chev 4.3l V6.

http://s571.photobucket.com/albums/ss160/vortecvwcamper/

It's got a 4 speed porsche 930 turbo trans behind it. You'd probably need a G50 to take the torque. The smaller porsche gearboxes (like the 915) might take the torque in the short term, but the G50 is much stronger. Otherwise you can have a 091/2l kombi box built up. Either way, you'll need to drive it with some sympathy.

What V8 do you want to put in it?
"stoopid is stronger than axles"
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_666_ Commited Dubber

62 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#700671
im lookig into a 1UZ-FE engine, trying to get around 10L/100km, but then again im hopig to run it on straight gas 🙂
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rocknrob Insano Dub Head

844 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#700677
heheh...talk to mini-man about 1UZ-FE's and gearboxes and being economical...good luck👍

_666_ Commited Dubber

62 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#700845
well they couldnt be much worse than kombi engines..
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TheMiniMan Insano Dub Head

849 posts · joined Aug 2006 ·

#703113
hee hee,,, well,,, just my type of topic :-) :-) :-)

666,,, we meet again my friend :-) Go for it i say,,,, but yeah G50 porsche with "LOTS" of mods to make it all fit, cutting torsion tubeout, fabricating brackets to accept the gearbox mounts bot front & top/bottom supports,,, making up toweres to accept the fittment of coil over shocks &/or airbags , gearshift changes, adaptor plate, flywheel & clutch assy, engine crossmember, efi fuel tank etc etc etc

Not a job for the faint hearted nor is it a job for anyone with little money or time,,, talk with Aaron (black Kombi 20B turbo rotary powered Kombi for that , he`s still spitting the porsche boxes & diffs :-)

I went for the full Albins after market gear kit in my late 2 litre thick rib kombi box with very very over driven top gear,,, also recently fitted Peloquin limited slip diff too,,, lots of bucks but seems to be holding up ok now days (cross fingers,,, ouching my woody, preying i havn`t just hexed myself) :-) :-) :-)

early splitty kombi boxes ran reduction boxes on the end of their axles because they were effectively std beetle boxes with the diff turned around & so added the reduction boxes to increase the torque to carry the extra weight that kombis inherantly continue to be abused with,,, just forget about the early boxes man, they will just burn holes in your pocket & drive you insane,,, trust me :-)

If you decide to go Porsche box, then be ready for all the fittment mods & costs & also you`ll most probably need to sort all your gear ratios out anyways,,,, it`s all just very expensive,,, There`s also the "Renault" gearbox route ,,, they`re a very tough box & less work/cost to fit,,, However Albins gears in a late kombi case can hold up to around 400hp-ish & don`t cost an arm & a leg,,, maybe just an arm "Or" a leg :-) but well worth it i reckon.

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#703114
So Matt ....are you 'armless or legless now???😀
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TheMiniMan Insano Dub Head

849 posts · joined Aug 2006 ·

#703276
hee hee ,,, Matty , you know i didn`t trade my arms or legs for the Albins box,,, just put them in hock at Cash Converters for a while till i can pay them off & get them back :-)

But yeah i`m usually legless on most friday nights :-) When you commin over for drinkies & party & stay the night & we go wheelstanding & doin donuts in the kombi at 3 in the moring???

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#703308
Sounds like lotsa fun, you know I got the beach real close.....
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE

TheMiniMan Insano Dub Head

849 posts · joined Aug 2006 ·

#703407
I`ll be ringing you soon for a get-together,,, we will be getting quite "leg-less" & i`ll be staying the nite,,, i`ll bring the kombi so we can do wheel stands & burnouts at 3 in the moring , OK?

:-)

you do have a spare kombi box to fit in the morning tho hey?????

bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#703444
Ahhhhh... toyota engines... mmmm what a feeling! 👍

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acn9479 Commited Dubber

68 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·

#703702
I'm pretty sure its like about 250-300 bucks for some different 3-4 gears for a 5rib kombi box. My ej22 kombi drives alright in the first 2gears but it would be better with a little bit taller 3 n 4th. Thats what I will be doing