Compufire

izac Wolfsburg Wizard

508 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 12 Mar 2009, 8:46 pm

#700419

Can I run a Compu-fire electronic ignition replacement module in a 009 in my 6V type 3?

cheers

greedy53 Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,062 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 12 Mar 2009, 10:09 pm

#700453

no

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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 Mar 2009, 10:37 pm

#700461

izac wrote:Can I run a Compu-fire electronic ignition replacement module in a 009 in my 6V type 3?

cheers

a 6 volt electronic ignition would really make a difference to a 6v engine..

If You can find one...

cheers

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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 13 Mar 2009, 5:54 am

#700476

u need 12volts

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

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greedy53 Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,062 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 13 Mar 2009, 7:35 am

#700492

bloody compufire i have had 2 and both failed in the first month 1 i imported from america no refund too hard and the net i won in a raffel again bloody compufire

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izac Wolfsburg Wizard

508 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 13 Mar 2009, 1:15 pm

#700540

Greedy53, that sounds pretty poor man, gives me second thoughts on it.... but looks like i wont be getting it anyway.

cheers for the replies guys.

does anybody know if anyone makes a 6v module??

greedy53 Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,062 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 13 Mar 2009, 1:22 pm

#700543

yer really poor and my mate his failed in the second month and another mate who had 1 sent with mine failed in 3 months and there not blody cheap

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izac Wolfsburg Wizard

508 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 13 Mar 2009, 1:30 pm

#700547

Just found out on the Samba that Petronix does a 6V system. will let u guys know how i go..

cheers

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 13 Mar 2009, 1:43 pm

#700550

Steve were they definately compufire kits?

compufire is noramally pretty good and have a decent warranty to

theres kits like the accufire empi crap that looks indentical to compufire but have a spectacular fail rate

Matt Ryan Fahrvergnugen

890 posts · joined Jan 2006 · 13 Mar 2009, 1:44 pm

#700551

izac,

Here's a pertronix from cip1

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=PER-1847-AN6

I'm sure there are others who sell them, especially in the states.

I've heard that the 6 volt ones don't cope very well with the drop in voltage to the coil caused by current draw from the starter motor. I reckon a "hard start" relay would sort that out. A lot of 6 volters have had one installed already.

Regards,

Matt

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izac Wolfsburg Wizard

508 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 13 Mar 2009, 2:05 pm

#700556

Thanks Matt that looks like what i want.

could you explain about the Hard start relay a bit more... what exactly is it?

cheers

greedy53 Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,062 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 13 Mar 2009, 3:12 pm

#700568

yep they were compu crap still have them in the shed so i can yell at them every now and then

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Matt Ryan Fahrvergnugen

890 posts · joined Jan 2006 · 14 Mar 2009, 9:06 am

#700744

izac wrote:Thanks Matt that looks like what i want.

could you explain about the Hard start relay a bit more... what exactly is it?

cheers

You run a wire from the main positive cable on the starter motor to a relay then to coil. It basically gives the coil a direct connection to battery while cranking.

I'll see if i can find a schematic for one.

Regards,

Matt.

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Matt Ryan Fahrvergnugen

890 posts · joined Jan 2006 · 14 Mar 2009, 10:33 am

#700762

izac,

Here is some info and a wiring diagram for hard start relay:

http://www.oldvolkshome.com/hardstart.pdf

I have been reading up and it seems the voltage drop affecting 6v electronic modules does not only happen during starting.

You have to have all your electrics in good condition or the engine can start to misfire or even cut out if voltage to coil drops. Good earths, clean contacts, good ignition switch etc.

One fix I came across, (was for beetle but probably the same for type III) is that the main power lead from battery doesn't go directly to the ignition circuit. It goes to the headlight switch then a jumper wire goes to ignition. People have had success with reversing these wires, but I would imagine you would need your head light circuit up to scratch if you did this, to avoid dim lights. (or should that be, dimmer lights?)😂

Regards,

Matt.

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izac Wolfsburg Wizard

508 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 14 Mar 2009, 12:50 pm

#700774

thanks for that Matt. I will give it a read.

Yeah it sounds like a fair bit of trouble... maybe its not worth it for a daily driver not sure i want dimmer lights as they already pretty much as good as candles 😂... but it would be handy.

cheers

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 14 Mar 2009, 1:11 pm

#700776

Why not convert to 12volt????

izac Wolfsburg Wizard

508 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 14 Mar 2009, 6:15 pm

#700818

yeah ok man you can come over and do it for me... 😂

cb john Wolfsburg Wizard

470 posts · joined Jun 2007 · 14 Mar 2009, 7:12 pm

#700825

greedy53 wrote:yer really poor and my mate his failed in the second month and another mate who had 1 sent with mine failed in 3 months and there not blody cheap

they fail very quickly, if incorrect ignition coil is used...
resistance of coil between +/- , or 1 / 15 terminal must be 3 Ohms...also leaving ignition "on" for a while will do the same...

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 14 Mar 2009, 7:30 pm

#700833

cb john wrote:
greedy53 wrote:yer really poor and my mate his failed in the second month and another mate who had 1 sent with mine failed in 3 months and there not blody cheap
they fail very quickly, if incorrect ignition coil is used...
resistance of coil between +/- , or 1 / 15 terminal must be 3 Ohms...also leaving ignition "on" for a while will do the same...

Yes, I always recommend a compufire high output coil too

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colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 18 Mar 2009, 11:55 pm

#701670

izac wrote:yeah ok man you can come over and do it for me... 😂

If your paying, I'm in. 🙂

Boozo Back in the bug

359 posts · joined Sep 2007 · 22 Mar 2009, 11:36 pm

#702507

ive had a compufire in my engine for longer than ive had my engine, previous owner put it in, and its been hastle free.
But yes it does come down to using the right coil

i will never go back to points again, the bug and van both have electronic, even my 323 daily runabout has it. points are the worst most anoying bit on any old car IMO

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izac Wolfsburg Wizard

508 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 23 Mar 2009, 8:02 pm

#702665

Boozo wrote:ive had a compufire in my engine for longer than ive had my engine, previous owner put it in, and its been hastle free.
But yes it does come down to using the right coil

i will never go back to points again, the bug and van both have electronic, even my 323 daily runabout has it. points are the worst most anoying bit on any old car IMO

is your car 6v? if so what coil are you using?
cheers