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Turbo54 Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#702971
Hi All,
I dropped the new box in last night and it is really close to the frame horns, like touching. I have been told just to squish them down but are interested how others have got around this. Anyone?
T54

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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#702990
mark the areas and remove box apply a little heat and tap an indent to have clearence
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grogy Custom Title Time!

1,000 posts · joined Aug 2007 ·

#703015
hi t54, is that a type 1 irs trans u putting in, it looks like type 1,um... but i thought type 1 would fit without any mods. i ask cause i trying to put a 091 into my bug. regards grogy

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2,534 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#703030
Heat em up and break out the hammer and create clearance.
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5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#703067
a BIG hammer..........if your taking the body off again, wait till then so to have a good swing at it

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#703070
Cut a nice scallop and plate with heavier gauge steel. IRS pans have a more slender and weaker fork in this area, guess that was obvious tho.
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#703092
from the pic it looks like a stock bug box on the outside so where is it hitting

you are better off with clearenceing the gearbox to chassis as it wont allow any movement or twist best off having some movement or you will get breakage

looks like Kombi output drive flanges ??
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#703108
CV flanges need clearance to frame horns
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Turbo54 Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#703117
Your right matberry,
Clearance issues are the CV Flanges, the box is a stock case, albins gears, quaife LSD and kombi CV Flanges.
I am running kombi CV's and axles so I think when I bolt it all up I will have issues.
Looks like it is body and motor out once again. Is it better to knock them down or cut and weld in a sections like Matberry has suggested?
Anyone have any pics so i can see how much I should knock it down?
Thanks for all your help.
T54
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#703120
99% are just wacked by a hammer. You only need about 10mm, but if you have big hp and no extra framehorn support it's better not to weaken this area.
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Turbo54 Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#703121
I have 2 bars that go up into the corners under the rear parcel shelf. A bit like a kafer brace minus the cross bar and not on a angle. This will tie into a cage if I eventually do it. The car should have about 300hp. Has anyone got any pics of welded ones.,
T54
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Boostn Wolfsburg Wizard

657 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#703163
matberry wrote:Cut a nice scallop and plate with heavier gauge steel.
Don't just bash it down, It would be a shame on such a nice car.
Do it properly.
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#703179
Don't just bash it down, It would be a shame on such a nice car.

Do it properly.

yes usea little heat anda nice hammer n dolly you wont notice it as much and a coat of paint will make it factory
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3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#703212
it looks like your gear box banana mounts aint thick enough ???
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Turbo54 Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#703302
Bannana Mounts?
Can you please explain a little more?
T54
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3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#703309
Turbo54 wrote:Bannana Mounts?
Can you please explain a little more?
T54
I had a buggy and the two bannana shape mounts under gear box was soft , causing the drive shafts to hit at times.
I think mine was a IRS pan it may of already had a dish in the arms and the seems along the side of the arms had extra welding along them as well .
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Turbo54 Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#703315
Do you mean like this?
Ian, this is a swinger pan with IRS welded in. Still a little unclear on what your saying. Are you saying there flexing or the metal was just soft?
Do you mean the frame horns when or the actual mounts when you say bannanas? It we are talking mounts I have got a big box mount and nolethane nose mount and a intermediate mount as well as a set of bars with hiem joints going up in the back of the car. I don't think the frame horns are going to budge.
thanks
Heath

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3,913 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#703321
the two under the gear box at motor.the rubber was soft
I think they welded along the seem of frame horns
to make it stronger.As i think the frame horns crack where the heater cable come out.
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5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#703324
Swingaxle pans do not have the clearance there, when converted to IRS,
so I doubt it is the banana mounts being soft or low.

That is the way to do it, Heath,
but perhaps not that much clearance.

I would make jusy enough to fit a 930 CV(plus about 3 to 5mm) for future upgrades,
and weld carefully a little at a time to prevent the fork pulling upward as the weld cools.
(refering to the new piece to close in your cut-out)
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Turbo54 Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#703325
Thanks everyone,
Were would we be without photoshop?
I think i might tack brace it before cutting and welding and then after cooling cut the bracing back off and bolt up the intermediate mount.
That way it shouldn't move to much. Thanks again everyone.
Heath
T54
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there's a new sensation hitting town,
It's moving straight, low to the ground,
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#703345
Man, I thought you had cut it already, and was wondering how you got the angle grinder in there without pulling the box.😂😂😂🤓
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Boostn Wolfsburg Wizard

657 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#703346
Photoshop?

And I thought you did some really nice welds.........hahah
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